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re: The ACA is not working for me and another in my family
Posted on 1/5/17 at 4:42 pm to Aristo
Posted on 1/5/17 at 4:42 pm to Aristo
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Start here and this is just the tiny tip of the iceberg.
Nah, man. CNN and the NYT are just right wing shills. You need to come up with some legitimate sources to back up your points.
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Posted on 1/5/17 at 4:42 pm to BamaAtl
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If you're talking about health insurance pre-ACA, "just about everyone" means something very different in this language than in whatever one you've come from.
The ACA has "insured" 16M more people at a direct cost of $300B per year while destroying an already damaged health insurance market for over 250M. So yeah. Y'all fricked up.
Posted on 1/5/17 at 4:43 pm to Party At LSU
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Even I posted two links.
One a forbes link, and nobody should take their ad-blocker off to visit that site. Full of malware - what's it say?
The second is a CNN Money article that talks about known deficiencies in the individual exchange for those not receiving subsidies. Hardly a reason to blow the entire marketplace/system up, rather than tweak it.
Next, liar?
Posted on 1/5/17 at 4:43 pm to BamaAtl
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If you're talking about health insurance pre-ACA, "just about everyone" means something very different in this language than in whatever one you've come from.
You have no clue where I'm coming from, which is fine. Even if you did, you would twist it to fit your narrative, so what's the point?
I didn't vote for DJT, but I, like millions of Americans who didn't support DJT, are relieved you and your ilk are taking big steps back....
Cannot wait for the day your kind are irrelevant again. Can. Not. Wait.
Posted on 1/5/17 at 4:45 pm to the808bass
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destroying an already damaged health insurance market
Destroying how? Insurers are seeing record sign-up, good profits (some are not).
At the same time re-admissions are down and HAIs are down. Private insurance costs are even cheaper, and rising on a per-insured rate the slowest we've seen in a long time.
Or do you mean destroying as in "making Republicans look bad?"
Posted on 1/5/17 at 4:45 pm to BamaAtl
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One a forbes link, and nobody should take their ad-blocker off to visit that site. Full of malware - what's it say? The second is a CNN Money article that talks about known deficiencies in the individual exchange for those not receiving subsidies. Hardly a reason to blow the entire marketplace/system up, rather than tweak it. Next, liar?
frick you, you fricking bitch-assed hack.
Posted on 1/5/17 at 4:45 pm to EZE Tiger Fan
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EZE Tiger Fan
Stop, your time would be better-spent learning about the issue. Only someone who has no knowledge of the system would claim that pre-ACA the health insurance system was working for 'just about everyone'.
Posted on 1/5/17 at 4:46 pm to Mr. Katanga
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it's idiots like you who have the loudest voice and get the attention.
Yes! I love this.
Demean those who have to pay for you and your ilk's shitty life choices. Keep it up!!
I doubt this "idiot" wanted this to happen to him and his family. Chances are good his "loud voice" didn't put him in this situation....YOURS DID.
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You're gonna suffer YUGELY these next four years and you are too stupid to know it. well deserved.
Keep this up too. I love it. Let everyone know who your enemy is. Mocking them while you hold your hand out for their money.
Please keep doing this.
Posted on 1/5/17 at 4:46 pm to the808bass
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the808bass
Someone doesn't have any data, so he resorts to ad homs....
Posted on 1/5/17 at 4:46 pm to the808bass
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Norvasc is $5 at Wally World.
Im sure Chlorthalidone is pretty cheap too huh?
Posted on 1/5/17 at 4:47 pm to BamaAtl
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At the same time re-admissions are down and HAIs are down. Private insurance costs are even cheaper, and rising on a per-insured rate the slowest we've seen in a long time.
Re-admissions being down is one of the few good things the ACA has done. It will be interesting to see the shifts in LTC as Medicare A changes hit their profit margins.
Private insurance costs aren't cheaper. Costs aren't going down. And rates are slowing because insurance is unusable. The average deductible today versus 2008 is what?
Posted on 1/5/17 at 4:48 pm to BamaAtl
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Someone doesn't have any data, so he resorts to ad homs....
I've forgotten more about our healthcare system and insurance market than you will ever know. You are a lying liar.
Posted on 1/5/17 at 4:49 pm to BamaAtl
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frick the poor, right?
frick the middle class trying to better themselves, right?
Posted on 1/5/17 at 4:49 pm to the808bass
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Private insurance costs aren't cheaper. Costs aren't going down. And rates are slowing because insurance is unusable.
The rate of increase has slowed, and they're not unusable in the sense that more people think that they can't see a doctor due to cost (see previously posted chart).
Deductibles definitely need to be looked at - which, again, is no reason to blow up the entire system.
Posted on 1/5/17 at 4:50 pm to BamaAtl
quote:Do you think individuals' issues with the law should be poo pooed because the aggregate says something different? Just throw everything into the aggregate, spew out a data point, and all is well?
BamaAtl
Under that logic, can't I say that America is an absolutely amazing country with no income issues, considering American GDP/capita is among the highest in the world?
Posted on 1/5/17 at 4:50 pm to BamaAtl
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Private insurance costs are even cheaper, and rising on a per-insured rate the slowest we've seen in a long time.
Health care spending has slowed, not insurance costs. The reason health care spending has decreased is because so many people are doing exactly what the OP is doing. Not going to the doctor, even though they need to.
Posted on 1/5/17 at 4:51 pm to BamaAtl
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The rate of increase has slowed, and they're not unusable in the sense that more people think that they can't see a doctor due to cost (see previously posted chart).
The rate of increase in premiums has slowed because benefit structure has drastically shifted the cost back to the payor. Making insurance inaccessible except for cases of extreme need.
Break your leg? You're paying that shite out of pocket. And the next time you break your leg, too, this year. Because your deductible is $7500.
Posted on 1/5/17 at 4:51 pm to BamaAtl
UH, yeah. It is a perfect reason to blow it up when the middle class on a large scale is getting raked over the coals in a huge money transfer. Not surprised you'd think that would only need "tweaks."
Posted on 1/5/17 at 4:51 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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Do you think individuals' issues with the law should be poo pooed because the aggregate says something different?
Of course not. But when an individuals' experience is vastly different than the aggregate, maybe we shouldn't blow the whole thing up to help the individual at the expense of the aggregate.
Posted on 1/5/17 at 4:52 pm to BamaAtl
The aggregate is a cluster. It will be repealed within 45 days. Thankfully.
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