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Texas is writing the playbook on how to beat the federal government going forward

Posted on 1/27/24 at 8:13 am
Posted by Forever
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 1/27/24 at 8:13 am
Since the Patriot Act was enacted, our federal government has moved further and further towards “soft” authoritarianism, where their entire game is to convince enough people to go along with their unconstitutional policies that it makes the other 50%-75% comply. Whether the compliance is gained by financial threat like getting fired for being unvaccinated, political threat on a lower or higher level, or peer pressure I.E. mask mandates, the federal government has maintained neutrality by not “forcing” anyone to do anything, rather forcing you to go along with something you don’t want to do.

Texas’ response? “We’re not going to go along with it this time, y’all should act on your threats and make us do what you want”. They have the federal government in checkmate right now. The feds can either A. Go hard authoritarian and attack one of its own states to force them to do something that’s trivial and objectively bad for the country in an election year, or B. Let Texas do what they want and neuter them in the process.

Texas is in a win/win situation and this is how every state should respond to unconstitutional demands from here on out. Stop letting the federal government toe the line and force them to either go full anti-American or shut the frick up.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 1/27/24 at 8:18 am to
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Texas is in a win/win situation and this is how every state should respond to unconstitutional demands from here on out. Stop letting the federal government toe the line and force them to either go full anti-American or shut the frick up.


I imagine DC is going to ultimately win based in how they always win these disputes: by turning off the spigot of federal money.

Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98847 posts
Posted on 1/27/24 at 8:21 am to
Yes, and no.

Texas certainly is on the side of the angels in this fight and has a solid constitutional basis for what it is doing. It is the playbook in similar circumstances.
Posted by The Levee
Bat Country
Member since Feb 2006
10707 posts
Posted on 1/27/24 at 8:21 am to
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by turning off the spigot of federal money.


Your Feds will give Texas exactly what they have wanted for 3 years. Texit
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101439 posts
Posted on 1/27/24 at 8:21 am to
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I imagine DC is going to ultimately win based in how they always win these disputes: by turning off the spigot of federal money.


Walk me through how that works here.
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
11186 posts
Posted on 1/27/24 at 8:23 am to
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I imagine DC is going to ultimately win based in how they always win these disputes: by turning off the spigot of federal money.

They already turned off the LNG permits.

I can only imagine the lobbying going on behind closed doors in Austin right now between the open border WEF types, the NG producers and the RINO leadership who run the Texas house of reps.
Posted by Catahoula20LSU
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2011
2110 posts
Posted on 1/27/24 at 8:23 am to
I don’t think that the feds want to turn off the spigot of federal dollars to Texas. Texas is one of the largest contributors to the fed in taxes. They could just easily keep their tax dollars and be fine for a while.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/27/24 at 8:25 am to
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Walk me through how that works here.


Probably an attempt similar to this

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President Trump has directed federal officials to find ways to cut funding to a string of cities controlled by Democrats, citing violence amid protests against systemic racism in policing, a move that threatens billions of dollars for many of the country’s largest urban hubs as the president makes the unrest a centerpiece of his re-election campaign.

Mr. Trump laid out the directive in a memo, released Wednesday, to Russell T. Vought, the director of the Office of Management and Budget, and Attorney General William P. Barr. It accuses state and local officials of abdicating their duties.


If the DEMs win the House in 2024, they could easily pass some laws, similar to the ones that got LA to bend the knee on our drinking age.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/27/24 at 8:25 am to
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I don’t think that the feds want to turn off the spigot of federal dollars to Texas. Texas is one of the largest contributors to the fed in taxes

TX would still be paying those taxes

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They could just easily keep their tax dollars and be fine for a while.

How?
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68658 posts
Posted on 1/27/24 at 8:26 am to
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I imagine DC is going to ultimately win based in how they always win these disputes: by turning off the spigot of federal money.


I’m not saying I trust anyone in Louisiana not to just completely waste tax money, but I’d rather reroute my federal income tax to Louisiana. At least if they waste it on studies and stupid shite, it’s our stupid shite and we still might get a new bridge out of it. Rt now it leaves the country.

Texas could do the same. No more money to the feds. We shut off their spigot.

And before you get all legal, the fed has already thrown that out the window.

And this goes for every state signed on.

So your precious Biden regime will have to just go without our money.






This post was edited on 1/27/24 at 8:29 am
Posted by SloaneRanger
Upper Hurstville
Member since Jan 2014
7728 posts
Posted on 1/27/24 at 8:26 am to
Texas needs to start indicting the NGOs and the people behind this human trafficking scam. People like Soros et al need to face charges in Texas state court.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260611 posts
Posted on 1/27/24 at 8:27 am to
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I don’t think that the feds want to turn off the spigot of federal dollars to Texas.


They'll threaten it. Its what they do best.

Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101439 posts
Posted on 1/27/24 at 8:28 am to
And you think there’s a huge public groundswell that would roundly support such “punishment” for a state trying to do what it can to stem this border tide?

Right
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101439 posts
Posted on 1/27/24 at 8:29 am to
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They'll threaten it. Its what they do best.


The implied threat is essentially always there.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260611 posts
Posted on 1/27/24 at 8:31 am to
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The implied threat is essentially always there.



Which is why people keep bowing.

Standing up to the Feds is rare.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101439 posts
Posted on 1/27/24 at 8:33 am to
Right. Yet, here we are.
Posted by idlewatcher
County Jail
Member since Jan 2012
79168 posts
Posted on 1/27/24 at 8:35 am to
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Standing up to the Feds is rare


Yup. I’m proud of our reps for taking a stand. Just pray it’s not futile
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260611 posts
Posted on 1/27/24 at 8:36 am to
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Right. Yet, here we are.


Will see what happens. I imagine in the long run Texas will take the money and step aside.
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
11186 posts
Posted on 1/27/24 at 8:36 am to
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Texas needs to start indicting the NGOs and the people behind this human trafficking scam. People like Soros et al need to face charges in Texas state court

The left already declared legal civil war on the right and are using lawfare against the presumptive GOP presidential candidate with their base cheering them on.

If the right merely responds in kind to the action of the left it will force them to either stop or more likely lead the entire nation to actually come to the only reasonable conclusion: the two sides cannot live under a government that reflects their goals and aspirations without inflicting tyranny on the other.

There are three tribes living under the same strong federal government right now:
-Tribe one wants to be Western Europe
-Tribe two wants to be an improved version of the US circa 1965
-Tribe three just wants to be on their phone to check their instagram and tiktok updates

If you read the history of the US revolution it was pretty much the same with the torries being euro centric, the patriots wanting individual freedoms and 1/3 of the country just trying to stay the hell out of it to raise crops.
This post was edited on 1/27/24 at 8:38 am
Posted by GetmorewithLes
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Member since Jan 2011
19068 posts
Posted on 1/27/24 at 8:36 am to
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They have the federal government in checkmate right now.


The Feds are never in checkmate when they can make the rules as they go. They will go the J6 route on the TX state officials like Abbott, Patrick, and Paxton. This is where the sympathetic states have to rise up in support.

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