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re: Tensions rise in Nevada-snipers,1st am zones,no fly zones used and in effect

Posted on 4/12/14 at 11:58 pm to
Posted by biohzrd
Central City
Member since Jan 2010
5602 posts
Posted on 4/12/14 at 11:58 pm to
They also have to put up with non-stop sanctions, fda, epa, and cdc inspections. My grandfather was a rancher. It is an up before sunrise, and you don't got to bed until late type of way life. Not to mention vet cost, feed, equipment and fuel cost.
There is a reason they tend to get pretty unrulely when they feel their way of life is being threatened. This is not just a job for them. It is their life.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260401 posts
Posted on 4/12/14 at 11:59 pm to
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Nothing wrong with citizens treating their government like and adversarial relationship.



You have to. It's exactly how big government treats the citizen.
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
78570 posts
Posted on 4/13/14 at 12:00 am to
I have the feeling that no matter what my rebuttal is, your belief is that their wealth flows from the Beneficence of The State and not their labor. This often occurs when a Capitalist who understands economic behavior talks to a Statist who think all wealth flows from a spout in Washington.

I'll let everybody in The West know their work is and always has been a socialist enterprise.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260401 posts
Posted on 4/13/14 at 12:07 am to
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I'll let everybody in The West know their work is and always has been a socialist enterprise



Those folks who eke out a living in the void spaces on the map only can do so because of rich, urban big government lovers who live in NYC, DC, Chicago and the California Coast, evidently.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98182 posts
Posted on 4/13/14 at 12:15 am to
Facts are facts. American History isn't a John Wayne movie.
Posted by biohzrd
Central City
Member since Jan 2010
5602 posts
Posted on 4/13/14 at 12:40 am to
It's not all an episode of Good Times either.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123894 posts
Posted on 4/13/14 at 6:48 am to
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which protected them from the Indians whose land they were stealing
Who is "they"?
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government-subsidized railroads
Where did money for subsidies arise?
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The West has always been a socialist enterprise.
As your above assumptions were false, can you layout any other basis for claims "the West has always been a socialist enterprise"?
Posted by EST
Investigating
Member since Oct 2003
17832 posts
Posted on 4/13/14 at 8:00 am to
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The BLM probably got a directive from the Sec. of the Interior, who had gotten one from the White House. They didn't want people to die over a cow issue.


My money is on Harry Reid. Once the Harry Reid - China solar power connection became public the BLM backed down. Interesting.
Posted by Salviati
Member since Apr 2006
5532 posts
Posted on 4/13/14 at 8:06 am to
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I see that shows he talks about a range war now, but you said BLM didnt take his cattle for over a decade because of his threats. The ABC link made no mention of that
High Country News
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Despite a running tab of court injunctions, complaints and conservation conflicts involving the BLM, the National Park Service, Clark County and environmental groups, and nearly $1 million in fines, Bundy has continued to run cattle on the federally-owned Bunkerville Allotment in the southern tip of Nevada, about 100 miles from Las Vegas. Over the years, the Department of Justice has more than once canceled BLM plans to round up the trespass cattle after blatant threats of violence from Bundy and his supporters, says Alan O’Neill, retired superintendent of the Lake Mead National Recreation Area adjacent to the allotment. The sieges at Ruby Ridge and Waco that fueled the ‘90s anti-government militia movement were fresh, he explains. “We were trying everything we could to resolve the issue peacefully. But he got more and more recalcitrant.”
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 4/13/14 at 8:17 am to
Yes, I fully expect goverment to claim he is evil.

however, I have facts and a litany of evidence as to the evil of government, and its pattern of mendacious propaganda.
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