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re: Tax revenues hit all time high for FY 2014

Posted on 8/15/14 at 1:24 pm to
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 8/15/14 at 1:24 pm to
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I don't like Obama. I like facts. Fact is the deficits now are lower than they were over a decade ago in terms of real dollars
Really? According to OMB the 2007 deficit was $167B... LINK
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118691 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 1:26 pm to
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Powerman


You seem pretty happy about this deficit so you should be praising congress. They have the power of the purse.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162209 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 1:28 pm to
A decade ago = 2004

And depending on where you get your info the data will vary slightly.

The point is a 460 billion dollar deficit is nothing historically large and not anything anyone cared about a decade ago.
Posted by jcole4lsu
The Kwisatz Haderach
Member since Nov 2007
30922 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 1:29 pm to
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I like facts.

yet you began the OP with a falsehood.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162209 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 1:29 pm to
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You seem pretty happy about this deficit so you should be praising congress. They have the power of the purse.



Yes they do.

I'm just pointing out good news. But some people believe there is no such thing as good news during periods where they don't like the person in the oval office. THAT is what you call simpleton thinking. Reject all good news as bad because it happened during someone's presidential term regardless of whether the president had anything to do with it.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162209 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 1:30 pm to
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yet you began the OP with a falsehood.

Which is what exactly?
Posted by jcole4lsu
The Kwisatz Haderach
Member since Nov 2007
30922 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 1:34 pm to
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Which is what exactly?

are you incapable of reading responses to your posts? ive posted it once, try and find it.
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73424 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 1:35 pm to
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Now if you have any other extremely stupid fricking questions, please ask someone else.
SO we have the Bush hit and now your douche move, same old Powerputz.
Posted by stuntman
Florida
Member since Jan 2013
9089 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 1:37 pm to
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I'll be curious to see how this is spun as a bad thing.


So, we have the highest collection of tax revenues of ALL TIME, yet we are STILL running deficits that are nearly half a fricking TRILLION dollars.

Can Liberals finally admit that spending is fricking WAY out of control?
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57120 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 1:39 pm to
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A decade ago = 2004
so the lower deficits between then and now aren't worthy of comparison. Just the 10 years ago value? That makes no sense.

quote:

The point is a 460 billion dollar deficit is nothing historically large and not anything anyone cared about a decade ago.
Neither is true. It was, at te time, the largest deficit in history. It was the largest deficit of the Bush administration. And plenty of people cared. Shall I post what Krugman said if the Bush deficits?
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162209 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 1:40 pm to
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So, we have the highest collection of tax revenues of ALL TIME, yet we are STILL running deficits that are nearly half a fricking TRILLION dollars.

Can Liberals finally admit that spending is fricking WAY out of control?

The deficit is shrinking though. Do trends mean nothing to you?
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
35938 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 1:45 pm to
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I don't like Obama. I like facts. Fact is the deficits now are lower than they were over a decade ago in terms of real dollars. That's a significant and very relevant number. And if the trend can continue downward that's a very good thing.


This would be Obama's best year, and the deficit would "only" be 460 Billion which is still higher than W's worst year.

2013 - $901 billion budget deficit (projected)
•2012 - $1.1 trillion budget deficit
•2011 - $1.3 trillion budget deficit
•2010 - $1.3 trillion budget deficit
•2009 - $1.4 trillion budget deficit
•2008 - $455 billion budget deficit
•2007 - $162 billion budget deficit
•2006 - $248.2 billion budget deficit
•2005 - $319 billion budget deficit
•2004 - $412.7 billion budget deficit
•2003 - $377.6 billion budget deficit
•2002 - $157.8 billion budget deficit

Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162209 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 1:47 pm to
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This would be Obama's best year, and the deficit would "only" be 460 Billion which is still higher than W's worst year.


Where did you get those numbers from?
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57120 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 1:50 pm to
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I'm just pointing out good news.
I must have missed it...
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
35938 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 1:51 pm to
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Where did you get those numbers from?


LINK
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57120 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 1:52 pm to
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Do trends mean nothing to you?
Not when CBO predicts ever-rising deficits after 2017.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57120 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 1:53 pm to
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Where did you get those numbers from?
I posted the OMB link above. It's the first link in the table.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162209 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 1:53 pm to
Interesting that I got different numbers from the same website
Posted by stuntman
Florida
Member since Jan 2013
9089 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 1:54 pm to
You're looking at trends differently than I do. The trend I see is a constant, massive growth of debt, which has major consequences.

This is how you're looking at it: 1) year one, I gain 50 lbs. Year two, I only put on 25 lbs. You would claim that I'm "moving in the right direction".
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
76511 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 1:55 pm to
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I thought that when rates go up revenues went down and vice versa?


The true Laffer or "Laugher" curve:



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