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re: Stop it with the (D) vs (R)

Posted on 2/4/23 at 9:13 am to
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112600 posts
Posted on 2/4/23 at 9:13 am to
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You people have to realize by now that both sides are working together


Yeah, that's why there are some bills with 100% of Dems voting FOR and 100% of GOP voting AGAINST.
Posted by sonuvapitcher
Member since Aug 2008
1726 posts
Posted on 2/4/23 at 9:15 am to
I agree that it isn’t a D vs R thing. It is an establishment/swamp thing. The Democrat Party is utterly corrupt to the core so any attempt to save the Republic must come from the R side. Trump is not a dyed in the wool Republican, but he knew this. I do not believe that he is a saintly patriot. I believe he is a bit of an egomaniac, but one that wants to be adored by the people. So while his motives may not be completely altruistic, his goals and methods align with mine and the rest of the sane people in this country.
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
46326 posts
Posted on 2/4/23 at 9:19 am to
You people have to realize by now that both sides are working together to remain rich off of taxpayer money. There is no politician trying to make your life better. "Why didnt trump do this when he was in office?"


Trump made a lot mistakes but he was in no way aligned with the Uniparty. If you care to recall, every major institution in America were in lockstep opposition to Trump and most of his domestic and foreign policies.
Posted by CMBears1259
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
4035 posts
Posted on 2/4/23 at 9:19 am to
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when Trump was elected, he also had majorities in the house and senate for 2 years.

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This infuriated me so much.

Same here

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WHERE IS THE WALL??? The cost was but $2 billion dollars! We’ve sent twenty times that to Ukraine! The Republicans don’t really believe their platform. It’s just lip service to the hard working , flag-loving Americans that blindly support them.

Which despite all of his flaws (and there are many) made DJT the best president since Ronald Reagan. I believe that he actually was working for the interests of all Americans and not just BS-ing us. Many people want to cast doubt on him, but many of the results reflected otherwise.
Posted by Gus007
TN
Member since Jul 2018
12024 posts
Posted on 2/4/23 at 9:40 am to
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Are there superficial differences between D and R? Sure. But recall that when Trump was elected, he also had majorities in the house and senate for 2 years.



No! Trump did not have a majority.
Paul Ryan, a Dem with an R beside his name, was Speaker at the time.
Ryan blocked almost everything Trump attempted.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261531 posts
Posted on 2/4/23 at 9:45 am to
Collective vs individual.

This is the battle, its always been the battle.
Posted by m2pro
Member since Nov 2008
28639 posts
Posted on 2/4/23 at 9:50 am to
We have realized that here for ages. We all hate 99% of the politicians we have.
Posted by SquaringCircles
Member since Sep 2021
1481 posts
Posted on 2/4/23 at 9:52 am to
Imho, the US is almost exclusively row-crop land where capital is farmed. Any policies that impede that are there merely to placate and appease. It’s about corporate and financial-industry power and regulatory capture. Corpocracy and oligarchy. People who know this tend to divide into two camps on how to address it: 1) socialize more industries and empower the government to operate them in the best interests of the people, or 2) decentralize more and return the power to individuals, small business, and local government. But most politicians just work within the current framework and don’t give a shite about actually improving our world.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261531 posts
Posted on 2/4/23 at 9:56 am to
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Imho, the US is almost exclusively row-crop land where capital is farmed. Any policies that impede that are there merely to placate and appease. It’s about corporate and financial-industry power and regulatory capture. Corpocracy and oligarchy. People who know this tend to divide into two camps on how to address it: 1) socialize more industries and empower the government to operate them in the best interests of the people, or 2) decentralize more and return the power to individuals, small business, and local government. But most politicians just work within the current framework and don’t give a shite about actually improving our world.


A lot of truth here.

The current status is technocracy/corporatism. Individuals are a dying breed.
Posted by subotic
Member since Dec 2012
2363 posts
Posted on 2/4/23 at 10:07 am to
I agree with this but I would add that human potential is the capital that is farmed here. Production, innovation, invention, etc. - that's what the masses represent to those that operate the conspiracy because they have controlled the planet's resources for a long time.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
105446 posts
Posted on 2/4/23 at 11:25 am to
Every American should be looking at the class warfare angle.
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
Team Bitter Clinger
Member since May 2020
17886 posts
Posted on 2/4/23 at 12:29 pm to
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We agree.


No, we most certainly are not in agreement if you fail to recognize that our nation’s print-on-demand monetary system is the wellspring of the current crisis. The Ponzi Scheme know as the Federal Reserve is indeed the funding mechanism of the Welfare-Warfare State.

Again, continuing our nation’s debt financed monetary system is the primary purpose of the Deep State. And on this point, Repubes and Democons are wholly united.

Yet even the most committed statist knows that this Ponzi Scheme is ultimately unsustainable. The economic restrictions we saw during the COVID-1984 pandemic was a glimpse into our future.



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