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re: St.George may hold the trump card.

Posted on 5/9/14 at 2:28 pm to
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 5/9/14 at 2:28 pm to
Let's try this again...

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Otherwise, all an opposing neighboring political subdivision would need to do is convince a property holder to request annexation after the petition was submitted to completely void the effort.
Posted by MrCoolBeans
Coolsville
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 5/9/14 at 2:32 pm to
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If enough signatures are validated to reach a number equal or greater to 25 percent of the registered voters


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If enough signatures


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If enough
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 5/9/14 at 2:35 pm to
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Let's try this again...

Try one more time.

Has the signature petition for incorporation of St George been submitted? No.

Has the petition for annexation by the Mall, et al, been submitted? Yes.

Using the logic of the Hayride article, if an area petitions to be annexed into an existing city, as the Mall and BRGH have already done, and a small number of property owners don't want to be annexed within the area petitioned, all they would have to do to stop the annexation process is to file a signature petition for incorporation of their small area. And that would freeze the annexation process that has already begun?

That is against all common sense.
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
80248 posts
Posted on 5/9/14 at 2:44 pm to
So what happens if the signatures are turned in prior to the other parts of the mall filing for annexation?

Then some of the mall would be part of St George and other parts would be BR??? That is, if the Nov election was a success...

That'd be funny shite
Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
32486 posts
Posted on 5/9/14 at 2:50 pm to
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So what happens if the signatures are turned in prior to the other parts of the mall filing for annexation?

Then some of the mall would be part of St George and other parts would be BR??? That is, if the Nov election was a success...



You really think an election will be a success? They can't even get people to sign a petition that they are willing to hand deliver.

Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126966 posts
Posted on 5/9/14 at 2:52 pm to
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So what happens if the signatures are turned in prior to the other parts of the mall filing for annexation?

Lawyers will get to bill for a lot of hours in that case.

I don't claim to know the legal ins and outs of the incorporation/annexation process, as Hayride apparently claims to do.

However, after I saw this thread, I read through the 3 main sections of the Louisiana Revised Statues pertaining to an unincorporated area requesting incorporation and there was nothing in them which stipulates a "freeze" on annexation requests because an incorporation petition has been filed.

It would have been nice if the Hayride author had cited a statue or court case which supports its assertion.
Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
32486 posts
Posted on 5/9/14 at 3:00 pm to
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It would have been nice if the Hayride author had cited a statue or court case which supports its assertion.



Well, we know he doesn't do his research.

Check out this gem from the article:

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WBRZ-TV reported Wednesday on the slapdash, hurried nature of the Mall annexation – to such an extent that it doesn’t even include the retail center’s four anchor stores…



Ummmmm...............they are being annexed.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 5/9/14 at 3:07 pm to
You need to review that. All of the mall didn't apply .
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126966 posts
Posted on 5/9/14 at 3:09 pm to
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It would have been nice if the Hayride author had cited a statue or court case which supports its assertion.

Well, we know he doesn't do his research.


Hayride is the Louisiana version of zerohedge. It caters to people with a 'victim' mentality.

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WBRZ-TV reported Wednesday on the slapdash, hurried nature of the Mall annexation – to such an extent that it doesn’t even include the retail center’s four anchor stores…

Ummmmm...............they are being annexed.
There was one article that was linked a couple of days ago that I don't feel like going back and finding now that said property owners are allowed to add their names to an annexation petition after it has been submitted and that is what Sears, Dillard's, et al, are planing on doing as soon as their boards authorize it.
Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
32486 posts
Posted on 5/9/14 at 3:09 pm to
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You need to review that. All of the mall didn't apply .



Who will not?


ETA: Clarifying. They will be annexed.
This post was edited on 5/9/14 at 3:11 pm
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126966 posts
Posted on 5/9/14 at 3:09 pm to
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All of the mall didn't apply .

Not yet and ABC.
Posted by Sprocket46
Member since Apr 2014
732 posts
Posted on 5/9/14 at 3:16 pm to
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Just saying you are about to get destroyed by Russian and the others for linking the Hayride as your factual basis.


Notice the title of the thread says "may"? And Russian isn't my keeper. He's also been proven wrong multiple times while trying to pass random information as fact. Do you wash his feet?
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
80248 posts
Posted on 5/9/14 at 3:20 pm to
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Do you wash his feet?


Yes and I wipe his bottom
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
80248 posts
Posted on 5/9/14 at 3:22 pm to
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You really think an election will be a success? They can't even get people to sign a petition that they are willing to hand deliver.


I think if it goes on the ballot that it would have a good chance of passing... Who is going to be more inclined to show up to vote, those in favor or opposed?

They need to get 25% of SG residents to sign it... frick, its hard to get 25% of residents to show up to vote. I don't think that is indicative of the feelings of the area.

Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126966 posts
Posted on 5/9/14 at 3:25 pm to
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Do you wash his feet?



Yes and I wipe his bottom


For the record....no, he doesn't



Posted by Sprocket46
Member since Apr 2014
732 posts
Posted on 5/9/14 at 3:26 pm to
On this, we agree.
Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
32486 posts
Posted on 5/9/14 at 3:27 pm to
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Who is going to be more inclined to show up to vote, those in favor or opposed?




Depends. Pretty sure the people who don't want to pay higher taxes may have a problem with a new city.


having trouble getting the petition sign should tell you something. Most people probably don't want to incorporate.

To wake up one day and all of a sudden you live in a new town with new taxes and ordinances?

If they wanted that, they'd probably not have moved into unincorporated areas.
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
80248 posts
Posted on 5/9/14 at 3:28 pm to
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For the record....no, he doesn't


Oh, don't be coy....
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126966 posts
Posted on 5/9/14 at 3:42 pm to
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Pretty sure the people who don't want to pay higher taxes may have a problem with a new city.

Along with the parents, grandparents, other relatives and close friends of over 5,000 EBR magnet school students (the 'magnet elite') who would be forced out of their current EBR magnet school and have to attend a SG district school.

Plus the business owners who, like the MoL and the other businesses which have exercised their legal right to not be forced to be in a new St George city while the SG folks are trying to make it impossible for them to be annexed into Baton Rouge, don't want the unknown of how much their property taxes would increase in a new city and school district.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126966 posts
Posted on 5/9/14 at 3:42 pm to
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