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Special Counsel Obtained Search Warrant For Donald Trump’s Twitter Account; Fined Twitter

Posted on 8/9/23 at 12:14 pm
Posted by jatilen
Member since May 2020
13608 posts
Posted on 8/9/23 at 12:14 pm
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Special Counsel Jack Smith obtained a search warrant earlier this year for records related to former President Donald Trump’s Twitter account, while the Elon Musk-owned platform was fined $350,000 for delaying its compliance with a court order.

The incident was revealed on Wednesday in an unsealed federal appellate opinion (Read it here). The judges upheld a lower court’s sanction on the social media platform.

Twitter, now renamed X, was prohibited from disclosing the existence of the search warrant, even to Trump.

Twitter argued that the nondisclosure order was a violation of the First Amendment and the Stored Communications Act, and that the district court should have delayed the enforcement of the search warrant until those issues were resolved.

Trump pled not guilty last week to four conspiracy charges brought by Smith over his efforts to retain power after the 2020 presidential election. The indictment referred to a number of Trump’s tweets, including one he posted as the attack on the Capitol was unfolding on January 6. Posted at 2:24 p.m. that day, it read, “Mike Pence didn’t have the courage to do what should have been done to protect our Country and our Constitution, giving States a chance to certify a corrected set of facts, not the fraudulent or inaccurate ones which they were asked to previously certify. USA demands the truth!”

In the opinion, Judge Florence Pan wrote that in granting the warrant in January, “the district court found probable cause to search the Twitter account for evidence of criminal offenses. Moreover, the district court found that there were ‘reasonable grounds to believe’ that disclosing the warrant to former President Trump ‘would seriously jeopardize the ongoing investigation’ by giving him ‘an opportunity to destroy evidence, change patterns of behavior, [or] notify confederates.”


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This will come as a shock but she's an Obama appointee.
This post was edited on 8/9/23 at 12:16 pm
Posted by hogcard1964
Illinois
Member since Jan 2017
10449 posts
Posted on 8/9/23 at 12:16 pm to
No, she was appointed by
Joe Biden and Preceded by
Ketanji Brown Jackson.

Whodathunkit?
Posted by WPBTiger
Parts Unknown
Member since Nov 2011
31049 posts
Posted on 8/9/23 at 12:16 pm to
Look down, first page.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
95633 posts
Posted on 8/9/23 at 12:16 pm to
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Moreover, the district court found that there were ‘reasonable grounds to believe’ that disclosing the warrant to former President Trump ‘would seriously jeopardize the ongoing investigation’ by giving him ‘an opportunity to destroy evidence, change patterns of behavior, [or] notify confederates.”


So, trying to imprison him the last four years wasn’t a heads up for him to do any of that? Just now that his Twitter profile has been subpoenaed? horseshite.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
73739 posts
Posted on 8/9/23 at 12:17 pm to
You can totally tell they want him to be the nominee
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
71808 posts
Posted on 8/9/23 at 12:21 pm to
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You can totally tell they want him to be the nominee


I wonder if this makes Republicans more or less likely to support Trump.

Posted by MFn GIMP
Member since Feb 2011
19348 posts
Posted on 8/9/23 at 12:22 pm to
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Twitter, now renamed X, was prohibited from disclosing the existence of the search warrant, even to Trump.

This is ridiculous in every instance. The government shouldn't be able to build secret cases against you.

ETA: initially typed "should" when I meant "shouldn't"
This post was edited on 8/9/23 at 12:44 pm
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
53003 posts
Posted on 8/9/23 at 12:22 pm to
It’s time to arrest Elon musk too. Twitter didn’t put up anything for lgbt month in June and Teslas aren’t woke enough
Posted by LolStarFishlol
Member since Jan 2023
728 posts
Posted on 8/9/23 at 12:29 pm to
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The government should be able to build secret cases against you.

Should or shouldn’t?
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
23075 posts
Posted on 8/9/23 at 12:42 pm to
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This is ridiculous in every instance. The government should be able to build secret cases against you.



You think a person who has possession or control over evidence should be given a heads up before the evidence is secured?
Posted by MFn GIMP
Member since Feb 2011
19348 posts
Posted on 8/9/23 at 12:44 pm to
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Should or shouldn’t?

Shouldn't. Mistyped on my phone.
Posted by MFn GIMP
Member since Feb 2011
19348 posts
Posted on 8/9/23 at 12:46 pm to
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You think a person who has possession or control over evidence should be given a heads up before the evidence is secured?

You support secret subpoenas and warrants? If the individual is in possession of the evidence then you serve the warrant to that individual and take it. Same for if the individual is in control of it. Don't issue the warrant until you are in position to obtain it.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56520 posts
Posted on 8/9/23 at 12:47 pm to
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You think a person who has possession or control over evidence should be given a heads up before the evidence is secured?


Man, that’s an intellectually dishonest description of what happened here.
Posted by MFn GIMP
Member since Feb 2011
19348 posts
Posted on 8/9/23 at 12:50 pm to
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Man, that’s an intellectually dishonest description of what happened here.

I think his comment was directly in response to mine saying that I think secret subpoenas are always wrong. Not necessarily in relation to this specific instance, which is even more wrong as Trump had no control over anything on Twitter.
Posted by thebigmuffaletta
Member since Aug 2017
12940 posts
Posted on 8/9/23 at 12:52 pm to
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You think a person who has possession or control over evidence should be given a heads up before the evidence is secured?


The authorities should be able to search your house without your knowledge to find that kiddie porn you probably have stashed
Posted by Padme
Member since Dec 2020
6182 posts
Posted on 8/9/23 at 12:57 pm to
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wonder if this makes Republicans more or less likely to support Trump.



Trump hasn’t lost any support based upon all the bogus attacks by the American enemy, not even lost support from ronbots. Well, of course, ronbots never supported him in the first place.
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
23075 posts
Posted on 8/9/23 at 1:07 pm to
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You support secret subpoenas and warrants? If the individual is in possession of the evidence then you serve the warrant to that individual and take it. Same for if the individual is in control of it. Don't issue the warrant until you are in position to obtain it.



I understand the need for limited nondisclosure orders when a party has the ability to alter or destroy the very evidence being sought by the warrant.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57263 posts
Posted on 8/9/23 at 1:09 pm to
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I understand the need for limited nondisclosure orders when a party has the ability to alter or destroy the very evidence being sought by the warrant.
There's always a end to justify the means. See civil asset forfeiture and no-knock warrants. Who the hell needs a 4th amendment. The government has prosecutions to conduct!
This post was edited on 8/9/23 at 1:11 pm
Posted by Nosevens
Member since Apr 2019
10321 posts
Posted on 8/9/23 at 1:12 pm to
Let’s ask Hunter Biden about his tip to clean out the storage space the fbi gave him while being “ investigated “
Posted by Warboo
Enterprise Alabama
Member since Sep 2018
2255 posts
Posted on 8/9/23 at 1:12 pm to
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You think a person who has possession or control over evidence should be given a heads up before the evidence is secured?


Well Hunter and the Big Guy were. What is good for the goose is good for the gander, right.
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