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re: Some of you need to stop with the “Blame Arbery” threads.

Posted on 5/11/20 at 3:21 pm to
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67156 posts
Posted on 5/11/20 at 3:21 pm to
You can protect property with deadly force when you’re both on the property. Once that dude is fleeing and no longer a threat to you physically, you can’t use deadly force. Deadly force is only for combating deadly force. Chasing down criminals is for police.
Posted by Philzilla2k
Member since Oct 2017
11073 posts
Posted on 5/11/20 at 3:22 pm to
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We all get it. He probably was not a choir boy.

Trying to deflect from the idiocy of the two morons just adds fuel to the fire.

There is no defending their actions, and even hinting at that is just stupid.


Go frick yourself, stop lecturing people on what they should do, that’s also just stupid
Posted by 62Tigerfan
Member since Sep 2015
4621 posts
Posted on 5/11/20 at 3:22 pm to
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There is no defending their actions


I suspect that once all the facts are known, the charges will be dropped.
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
38301 posts
Posted on 5/11/20 at 3:30 pm to
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You can protect property with deadly force when you’re both on the property. Once that dude is fleeing and no longer a threat to you physically, you can’t use deadly force


None of this happened.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111572 posts
Posted on 5/11/20 at 3:32 pm to
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I suspect that once all the facts are known, the charges will be dropped.


This would be a surprise to me. I could see a jury with the right demographic makeup feeling some sympathy for two good old boys trying to “keep their neighborhood safe” and acquitting them.
This post was edited on 5/11/20 at 3:33 pm
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67156 posts
Posted on 5/11/20 at 3:33 pm to
Dude was running down the street until a truck with two armed men cut him off and cornered him so he couldn’t keep running.
Posted by 93and99
Dayton , Oh / Allentown , Pa
Member since Dec 2018
14400 posts
Posted on 5/11/20 at 3:33 pm to
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This would be a surprise to me. I could see a jury with the right demographic makeup feeling some sympathy for two good old boys trying to “keep their neighborhood safe” and acquitting them.



Here we go with the race shite again !
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111572 posts
Posted on 5/11/20 at 3:36 pm to
There’s going to be racial elements to this trial whether you like it or not. Do you think the McMichaels’ lawyer is going to try to get a bunch of African Americans on the jury? If not, why not?
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
38301 posts
Posted on 5/11/20 at 3:38 pm to
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Dude was running down the street until a truck with two armed men cut him off and cornered him so he couldn’t keep running.


So, if he was fleeing; why did he keep running towards the guys? I know you want to spin it; but in the court of law, facts matter.
Posted by Possumslayer
Pascagoula
Member since Jan 2018
6212 posts
Posted on 5/11/20 at 3:39 pm to
I blame all 3
Posted by Displaced
Member since Dec 2011
32715 posts
Posted on 5/11/20 at 3:40 pm to
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why did he keep running towards the guys?

There was a truck in front of and behind him...
Posted by Hmanhunt
Member since Sep 2015
641 posts
Posted on 5/11/20 at 3:41 pm to
I can’t see you making the same statement with the races reversed. And believe me I hate the race card more than anything. It’s dumb to argue about this until everything has concluded
Posted by tketaco
Sunnyside, Houston
Member since Jan 2010
19556 posts
Posted on 5/11/20 at 3:54 pm to
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Here we go with the race shite again !


Won't matter what the racial make up is. They'll empathize with neighbors protecting neighbors and their community from someone with a track record of crime. You cannot deflect from official record that has a history.
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
38301 posts
Posted on 5/11/20 at 3:56 pm to
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There was a truck in front of and behind him...



So, it wasn’t the father and son chasing him?
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
16521 posts
Posted on 5/11/20 at 3:59 pm to
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So, it wasn’t the father and son chasing him?


They were chasing him as well as another man in a second vehicle
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56628 posts
Posted on 5/11/20 at 3:59 pm to
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We all get it. He probably was not a choir boy.

Trying to deflect from the idiocy of the two morons just adds fuel to the fire.

There is no defending their actions, and even hinting at that is just stupid.



If he was actively stealing in that neighborhood it is VERY relevant and ignoring it doesn't accomplish anything positive.

If he wasn't, and his "non-choir boy" actions were all in the past or unrelated, then a lot of other questions need to be answered and the answers aren't going to be good enough.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111572 posts
Posted on 5/11/20 at 4:01 pm to
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If he was actively stealing in that neighborhood it is VERY relevant and ignoring it doesn't accomplish anything positive.


But no one knows that. That’s why we don’t have citizen posses taking care of suspected burglars.
Posted by mahdragonz
Member since Jun 2013
6944 posts
Posted on 5/11/20 at 4:02 pm to
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Won't matter what the racial make up is. They'll empathize with neighbors protecting neighbors and their community from someone with a track record of crime. You cannot deflect from official record that has a history.


Exactly what are they protecting their neighborhood from?

There was no theft.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67156 posts
Posted on 5/11/20 at 4:04 pm to
It’s actually not relevant at all. He could have been running down the street carrying the Mona Lisa. It doesn’t matter. Citizens cannot use deadly force to protect property outside of their homes when the perp is fleeing and no longer a threat to them. If you escalate a conflict by chasing the dude down, you cannot then plead self-defense if you shoot him.
Posted by steadytiger
Member since Jan 2007
2756 posts
Posted on 5/11/20 at 4:05 pm to
They will beat the rap.
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