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Socialist Healthcare -- Let's Look at pay
Posted on 8/8/21 at 10:12 am
Posted on 8/8/21 at 10:12 am
I was shocked to see that doctors in the UK make peanuts. I figured they did, but never really looked into it. Here's the facts taken from an employment website in the UK:
What in the actual frick is this? You have specialists over there making fricking peanuts. $70k a year at the high end? The average OT baller makes more than that before he wakes up in the morning.
Who in their right mind would ever be a doctor over there? Seriously. WHY? (Yes I know they have private doctors not connected with NHS).
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Doctors in training- starting salary is £27,146. This increases in Foundation year 2 to £31,422.
General practitioners- the pay range for salaried GPs is £57,655 to £87,003.
Specialty doctors- If you’re working as a specialty doctor you’ll earn a basic salary of £39,060 to £72,84
Consultants - As a consultant you'll earn a basic salary of £77,913 to £105,042 per year, depending on the length of your service.
What in the actual frick is this? You have specialists over there making fricking peanuts. $70k a year at the high end? The average OT baller makes more than that before he wakes up in the morning.
Who in their right mind would ever be a doctor over there? Seriously. WHY? (Yes I know they have private doctors not connected with NHS).
This post was edited on 8/8/21 at 10:13 am
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Posted on 8/8/21 at 10:14 am to AUstar
To be fair £70,000 is like 100,000 us dollars.
Posted on 8/8/21 at 10:15 am to West Palm Tiger561
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To be fair £70,000 is like 100,000 us dollars.
Still ain't shite for doctors in the U.S., especially for specialists.
Posted on 8/8/21 at 10:16 am to West Palm Tiger561
Was going to post, a pound sterling is valued at 1.4 dollars.
Posted on 8/8/21 at 10:17 am to AUstar
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Who in their right mind would ever be a doctor over there? Seriously. WHY?
Newly imported doctors from India and Pakistan who view £70,000 as a fortune.
Posted on 8/8/21 at 10:19 am to AUstar
US and Australia pay specialists a hell of a lot. The rest of the world, not so much.
Posted on 8/8/21 at 10:19 am to AUstar
Posted on 8/8/21 at 10:21 am to AUstar
UK salaries are much lower in general for most fields.
America pays much, much better and for that, everyone should be grateful.
Only people who make a lot (i.e. US comparable) in the UK are bankers and lawyers.
America pays much, much better and for that, everyone should be grateful.
Only people who make a lot (i.e. US comparable) in the UK are bankers and lawyers.
Posted on 8/8/21 at 10:26 am to West Palm Tiger561
quote:and?
To be fair £70,000 is like 100,000 us dollars.
Posted on 8/8/21 at 10:31 am to NPComb
quote:Nice use of a conjunction and question mark.
and?
Posted on 8/8/21 at 10:32 am to AUstar
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Posted on 8/8/21 at 10:32 am to AUstar
If I were a doctor in the UK, I'd be doing boob jobs and face lifts for straight cash. Nothing medically necessary. Just straight elective aesthetic procedures.
Posted on 8/8/21 at 10:33 am to AUstar
100,000 is enough for anybody to live on.
Posted on 8/8/21 at 10:34 am to Eurocat
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100,000 is enough for anybody to live on.
How much someone earns should be up to the market, not set by the government.
Posted on 8/8/21 at 10:39 am to Eurocat
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100,000 is enough for anybody to live on
Generally speaking (for one person) I agree. Unless you’re in a high value market, say LA or NYC. Then you’re well below average.
The next step is “your weekly chocolate ration has been reduced from 32 grams to 26 grams”.
Eurocat:
“Nobody needs 32 grams of chocolate. Be thankful you’re getting any chocolate.”
Posted on 8/8/21 at 10:42 am to Eurocat
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100,000 is enough for anybody to live on.
This guy is literally a cultist and unfortunately he's not alone.
Posted on 8/8/21 at 10:49 am to AUstar
Spend 24 hours inside a VA. Then tell me how you feel about socialist healthcare.
Posted on 8/8/21 at 10:52 am to AUstar
Healthcare isn't a free market in the US either.
The setup in the US being quasi socialist results in highest pay for Drs and nurses etc.
In a true free market setup they'd earn far less. Think along the lines of Dental and Vets.
Either way we go, socialist or more capitalist Healthcare salaries are gonna drop.
The setup in the US being quasi socialist results in highest pay for Drs and nurses etc.
In a true free market setup they'd earn far less. Think along the lines of Dental and Vets.
Either way we go, socialist or more capitalist Healthcare salaries are gonna drop.
Posted on 8/8/21 at 10:54 am to fjlee90
To be fair, Doctors in the US and the UK are not comparable.
1) Salaries in the UK are lower in general. GDP per capita is like 40% lower so it's not a 1:1 comparison. You have to look at ratios between your median worker and your median doctor.
2) Doctors in the UK go through 5 or 6 years of education, some of which is heavily subsidised by the state. In the US, you pay for 8 years of education and this isn't subsidized. In the US, it's not uncommon for doctors to have $400k of debt that they have to pay off.
3) The US just pays their Doctors far more compared with most countries.
1) Salaries in the UK are lower in general. GDP per capita is like 40% lower so it's not a 1:1 comparison. You have to look at ratios between your median worker and your median doctor.
2) Doctors in the UK go through 5 or 6 years of education, some of which is heavily subsidised by the state. In the US, you pay for 8 years of education and this isn't subsidized. In the US, it's not uncommon for doctors to have $400k of debt that they have to pay off.
3) The US just pays their Doctors far more compared with most countries.
This post was edited on 8/8/21 at 10:56 am
Posted on 8/8/21 at 10:55 am to darkmatter134
quote:imagine that
Only people who make a lot (i.e. US comparable) in the UK are bankers and lawyers
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