re: So what’s the PT consensus…time to move on from Trump?

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After Biden, we can't afford to not have a president that shies away from the tough work of putting the federal gov't back in the box it's supposed to be in.

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I hate to tell you this, but there is very little chance that the leviathan allows any candidate to be elected that would ever “put it back in its box.”

They learned their lesson in 2016.

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but there is very little chance that the leviathan allows any candidate to be elected that would ever “put it back in its box.”

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If you’re running the show, you beat populism by not letting them really vote.

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What do you think are the real problems facing America First beyond poor messaging and mass mail in ballot harvesting?

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The electorate and the power of entrenched government interests.

We are in the midst of a paradigm shift in how voters view the role of government and what they believe in terms of personal responsibility, accountability, and values. It is a dramatic shift to the left. This has been produced through decades of indoctrination through education, academia, media, culture, social media, and now corporate influence and NGO power.

These dynamics have coupled with a massive growth of government influence and power by the W and Obama administrations and agencies that have been remade within the scope of these dynamics. Moreover, seminal events like 9/11, the Great Recession, COVID have accelerated this massive movement to the left and further leveraged government power and influence and the desire for such.

Young voters under 40 used to be unreliable voters. That is completely changed now and is a key component in this nationwide shift to the left. Young voters are actively engaged now. For them, political ideology has replaced religion as the greater purpose in life. They are fully committed. They are ideological, not practical. In Michigan, young voters increased almost 400%. In Wisconsin, young voters increased almost 300%. In Illinois, young voters increased almost 350%. These are staggering, unseen before numbers. And they are more likely to keep voting, according to exit polls. This is a new factor. For the first time in history, young Americans have a more favorable view of socialism than young Europeans.

I don’t see this dramatic shift to the left and the push for leftist policies and increased government control waning for generations. It will take generations, and possibly a catastrophic event, to push a course correction, if ever.

So do you believe since his entry into the political world that he’s run into more insult and vitriol, or more flattery? Seems to me if he loves flattery that much he could’ve found a whole bunch of that somewhere else. With almost none of the hatred directed toward he and his family. I’m not so sure this is a search for flattery. JMO

He is simply too polarizing. Dude governed like a boss and his policy was on point. But the electorate is too dumb/emotional to get past his abrasiveness. I don’t think he can win the general against Biden.

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The electorate and the power of entrenched government interests.

We are in the midst of a paradigm shift in how voters view the role of government and what they believe in terms of personal responsibility, accountability, and values. It is a dramatic shift to the left. This has been produced through decades of indoctrination through education, academia, media, culture, social media, and now corporate influence and NGO power.

These dynamics have coupled with a massive growth of government influence and power by the W and Obama administrations and agencies that have been remade within the scope of these dynamics. Moreover, seminal events like 9/11, the Great Recession, COVID have accelerated this massive movement to the left and further leveraged government power and influence and the desire for such.

Young voters under 40 used to be unreliable voters. That is completely changed now and is a key component in this nationwide shift to the left. Young voters are actively engaged now. For them, political ideology has replaced religion as the greater purpose in life. They are fully committed. They are ideological, not practical. In Michigan, young voters increased almost 400%. In Wisconsin, young voters increased almost 300%. In Illinois, young voters increased almost 350%. These are staggering, unseen before numbers. And they are more likely to keep voting, according to exit polls. This is a new factor. For the first time in history, young Americans have a more favorable view of socialism than young Europeans.

I don’t see this dramatic shift to the left and the push for leftist policies and increased government control waning for generations. It will take generations, and possibly a catastrophic event, to push a course correction, if ever.

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Preach. I've seen you say this multiple times and I agree wholeheartedly with it. Anyone who hasn't realized this yet doesn't want to realize it.

Politics has changed forever. The left has figured that out. The right doesn't have a clue. Hell, most voters on our side were thinking there would be a massive red wave because the economy is bad. This group of voters could not give any less of a frick about inflation and gas prices. It's all about furthering the far left cause, even if it is at their own detriment.

Republican politicians and voters need to wake the hell up and recognize this.

You have to know the shelf life of your product. Would you rather throw your food away too soon and waste food or throw your food away too late and get food poisoning? The jar of Trump in the fridge is starting to smell funky and there is gray crusty crap in the threads of the jar.

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We are in the midst of a paradigm shift in how voters view the role of government and what they believe in terms of personal responsibility, accountability, and values. It is a dramatic shift to the left. This has been produced through decades of indoctrination through education, academia, media, culture, social media, and now corporate influence and NGO power.

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The influx of cultural Marxists from Europe after WWI and then again after WWII set the plan in motion to liberalize the US. They infiltrated every nook and cranny of America’s educational system, mass media, Hollywood and later corporate America and the government from local levels to federal.

It took over 100 years but the American Marxists have near control or significant influence over every major institution in America. As I said in another thread, it’s going to take many elections and a serious ground game to turn the tide, the problem we face is many of the most ardent opponents of Groomerism are Boomers and they will be dying by the tens millions of millions over the next 10-15 years and I fear that could hamper serious pushback against the Groomers.