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So, what exactly, are the Citizens of Russia thinking?

Posted on 1/13/17 at 7:34 pm
Posted by HubbaBubba
F_uck Joe Biden, TX
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 1/13/17 at 7:34 pm
I had a highly interesting conversation with a Russian businessman on the plane this afternoon. He said that, for Russians, they see a little war as good for the country and inspirational. He said Russians don't want anyone else's land, but want to fiercely protect their Homeland. The current tensions are only in the U.S. and not in Russia (according to him) and he's amazed (and worried) about the Saber rattling leading up to Trump bring President.

He said that, in his opinion, the geopolitical views of Russia are more in line with U.S. views than ever before. The public in Russia view the Syrian conflict as many Americans do: a war that must be fought in order to protect the country from terrorism.

He said that the USSR war in Afghanistan has made all Russians extremely cautious about larger nation conflicts and that the citizens have no heart for something like that. He said too many sons and fathers died there. He said "it was our Vietnam and no Russian wants to go through that, again. "

I asked him about his concerns. He said, he doesn't know anyone that wants conflict with the U.S.,saying most people love the good things about our country, but that the ugliness from police killings and mass shooting events leaves a lot of Russians thinking we're lawless in many ways and they fear us not because we threaten them, but that since this lawlessness is tolerated within our own country, what sort of horror would the U.S. be willing to inflict on Russian citizens?

As far as Trump goes, he says, "Russians view him favorably because he openly expresses hope for better relations and that Russians hope that Trump and Putin can align the geopolitical rails so that both countries can go about their business interests without worrying about a head-on crash."

As far as Putin goes, he said, "Russians realize he's flawed, abusive of his power and speaks in platitudes when given important questions to answer, but then again, that seems to define most American political figures, no?" Hard to argue against that! He did admit that Putin is very popular within Russia as the Russian people are not like the American left (which he described as soft and decadent) and they respect a leader who exhibits strength and resolve.

Anyway, it was interesting to talk to someone and learn how he views the whole "Russia is a threat" thing that the Democrats and GOP hard right promotes. This encounter is all paraphrased and condensed, but it was interesting.
Posted by Yellerhammer5
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 1/13/17 at 7:36 pm to
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He said Russians don't want anyone else's land, but want to fiercely protect their Homeland.


What exactly is Russia's homeland?
Posted by Hugo Stiglitz
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 1/13/17 at 7:37 pm to
Pretty cool story. Seems like a reasonable Russian.
Posted by Hugo Stiglitz
Member since Oct 2010
72937 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 7:37 pm to
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What exactly is Russia's homeland?

The USSR I'd speculate
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 1/13/17 at 7:40 pm to
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What exactly is Russia's homeland?



Historically, from Ukraine to the Urals. They did not expand into Asia until late in the game.
Posted by HubbaBubba
F_uck Joe Biden, TX
Member since Oct 2010
45710 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 7:44 pm to
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The USSR I'd speculate
That's not what I got. What I got was a sense that they view the U.S. as more counter-productive to world peace that Moscow could ever be. He said there is a widely held view that U.S. meddling has destabilized the world far more than Russia would ever dare and that they feel like they are facing down the terrorism that the U.S. started but then allowed to spiral out of control.
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
35963 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 7:56 pm to
The United States is a greater destabilizer than Russia. We have been at war continuously now for over 16 years. Our politicians have no concept of blowback and don't comprehend that our actions in one conflict can have catastrophic consequences down the road. The Russians involve themselves in regional conflicts to prevent destabilization within their own country, while the United States involves itself in conflicts on behalf of its lecherous "allies". And I use that term loosely.
Posted by Big12fan
Dallas
Member since Nov 2011
5340 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 8:04 pm to
How the hell can the Russian people be fully informed about Putin when any news outlet that is critical of the little shitass is shut down.

LINK
Posted by someoneBEE
Member since Aug 2016
698 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 8:07 pm to
This is Demcuck's idea of foreign policy:

Hillary Clinton poses with Pussy Riot






I am sure following was compiled by russians, but can anyone dispute fricking videos of their "performance art". (If there is any dead link, just google it...)


1) Pussy Riot gig at Christ the Savior Cathedral (original video) https://www.youtube.COM/watch?v=grEBLskpDWQ

2) Public group sex gig at the biology museum (NSFW): https://plucer.livejournal.COM/55710.html (P.S. Tolokonnikova and her husband. Tolokonnikova is a pregnant one.)

3) Grocery store (While her friends smear feces on posters, the lady stuffs a raw chicken into her vagina - there were children present there NSFW) https://kotkin-egor.livejournal.COM/655499.html , https://liveleak.COM/view?i=aea_1343072683

4) HIJACKING PUBLIC TRANSPORT, STALLING TRAFFIC, VANDALISM IN MOSCOW SUBWAY:
https://lj.rossia.ORG/users/wisegizmo/ https://newstreetuniver.livejournal.COM/184184.html
PLZ note - all these unauthorized. they were simply hijacking someones buildings and transport!

5) INTRUSION OF PRIVATE JAIL PROPERTY (BASICALLY - BROKE INSIDE OF A JAIL):
https://pussy-riot.livejournal.COM/5763.html

6)PUSSY RIOT - sexual assault, interference with the duties of a police officer, and creating a public disturbance. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6T-Bcgkmo0M&feature=autoplay&list=PL6FF17B0955E27B1B&playnext=3 https://rutube.ru/video/aa758d3b41487fd9f453f01d93326149/#.UIYdyiH-CyI www.youtube.COM/watch?v=l0A8Qf893cs https://wisegizmo.livejournal.com/52764.html

7)PUSSY RIOT - another weird unauthorized red square performance. https://ma-zaika.RU/post202301280

8)PUSSY RIOT - throwing urine onto police officers. (couldn't find a video of that one)

9) Raising and releasing 4000 live cockroaches in Tagansky district court building: https://wisegizmo.livejournal.com/34053.html (Tolokonnikova and Samutsevuch )

10) Brought in a table and lots of food and partied in Moscow subway. Not even sure what charge they'd get in US - trespassing? criminal mischief? interference with business? https://plucer.livejournal.com/199938.html

11) Police department intrusion. Interference with business: https://plucer.livejournal.com/88685.html https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i80awcTO7GA

12) Breaking and entering into Russian White house/parliament. Actually - they jumped the fence inside of the white house territory, prior - they broke into another building across the street from White House and installed some skull-painting laser there. You can clearly see Tolokonnikova and her husband there, also Samutsevich.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAqz5VTMpyo https://plucer.livejournal.com/112417.html
there is more but I don't have time to dig through all of their videos."

Putin sent these degenerate libprog counts to jail.
Hillary Obama Colert Stewart turned them into Mother Teresa.
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This is why Putin is popular in Russia, and Obama's legacy is Trump.
This post was edited on 1/13/17 at 8:13 pm
Posted by WhiskeyPapa
Member since Aug 2016
9277 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 8:26 pm to
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So, what exactly, are the Citizens of Russia thinking?


How to get a fitbit.
Posted by a want
I love everybody
Member since Oct 2010
19756 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 8:30 pm to
"Those dumb asses actually democratically elected an authoritarian leader."
Posted by Champagne
Already Conquered USA.
Member since Oct 2007
48270 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 8:42 pm to
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I am sure following was compiled by russians, but can anyone dispute fricking videos of their "performance art". (If there is any dead link, just google it...)


I have a hunch that the Dems would LOVE to launch a "Pussy Riot" continuing movement of resistance against Trump.

Posted by HubbaBubba
F_uck Joe Biden, TX
Member since Oct 2010
45710 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 8:43 pm to
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"Those dumb asses actually democratically elected an authoritarian leader."
Our dumb asses actually democratically voted for "Hope and Change" and "Yes WE CAN!"
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39399 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 9:18 pm to
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they respect a leader who exhibits strength and resolve


Posted by Dandy Lion
Member since Feb 2010
50248 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 9:22 pm to
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So, what exactly, are the Citizens of Russia thinking?

Some, fricking boiled beets and potatoes again?
Others, where is that a-hole with the Dom Perignon, I´ve got to get some of these bodyguards off the clock?
This post was edited on 1/13/17 at 9:23 pm
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