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So, The Donald's first trip is to the the leader in Radical Islamic Terror
Posted on 5/19/17 at 10:59 am
Posted on 5/19/17 at 10:59 am
I voted for Trump, but his wishing to be butt-buddies with Saudi Arabia and their barbaric 'Kingdom' does little to make me believe ISIS will ever be destroyed. ISIS is Saudi's baby; they are their baby-daddy. The funding and the creation lie at their feet along with parts of 9/11 and other terrorist acts over the last few decades.
Why in the heck we continue to pander to frauds is preposterous.
There will never be peace in that region. Ever.
We will make a huge weapons trade/deal with Saudi Arabia also.. Selling weapons and technology to the same folks who help fund the group we are supposedly out to defeat: ISIS. It doesn't get more bullshitty than that. Maybe some of those advanced weapons can make it's way into the battlefield in Syria and be used against Iran when the time comes: or better yet used by ISIS against Russia or Iran backed militia. As Russia arms Iran and Syria, we will arm our proxies. This will all end well in the next 10 years without a doubt. We will get our dream yet of a glassland ME parking lot.
But, but, he is pro-Russia. What a farce.
Why in the heck we continue to pander to frauds is preposterous.
There will never be peace in that region. Ever.
We will make a huge weapons trade/deal with Saudi Arabia also.. Selling weapons and technology to the same folks who help fund the group we are supposedly out to defeat: ISIS. It doesn't get more bullshitty than that. Maybe some of those advanced weapons can make it's way into the battlefield in Syria and be used against Iran when the time comes: or better yet used by ISIS against Russia or Iran backed militia. As Russia arms Iran and Syria, we will arm our proxies. This will all end well in the next 10 years without a doubt. We will get our dream yet of a glassland ME parking lot.
But, but, he is pro-Russia. What a farce.
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Posted on 5/19/17 at 11:00 am to reo45
This post was edited on 5/19/17 at 11:00 am
Posted on 5/19/17 at 11:03 am to reo45
I could care less, Trump should be talking with everybody.
Peace on Earf
Peace on Earf
Posted on 5/19/17 at 11:03 am to reo45
You know nothing about Saudi Arabia. If they catch anyone in ISIS or Al Queda in their country those people are dispatched with a quickness.
That's why OBL (a Saudi) never set foot in the country after he went radical. There was a price on his head.
Radical Islamic Terror wants the house of Saud gone and replaced by the Mullah's (think Iran).
This trip by Trump is an excellent idea in moving ahead with combating Islamic terrorism.
That's why OBL (a Saudi) never set foot in the country after he went radical. There was a price on his head.
Radical Islamic Terror wants the house of Saud gone and replaced by the Mullah's (think Iran).
This trip by Trump is an excellent idea in moving ahead with combating Islamic terrorism.
Posted on 5/19/17 at 11:05 am to Zach
You likely know more about it than I do, but why did we not put more pressure on Saudi post-9/11?
Posted on 5/19/17 at 11:06 am to reo45
Why don't you get informed a little before posting, if for no other reason not to come off looking like a fricking hack.
All of our presidents meet with these leaders, even black Jesus. shite, Obama armed terrotists in Syria that turned their guns on us! The ME will always be filled with barbarians, we only aim to make sure the right barbarians have the biggest guns.
All of our presidents meet with these leaders, even black Jesus. shite, Obama armed terrotists in Syria that turned their guns on us! The ME will always be filled with barbarians, we only aim to make sure the right barbarians have the biggest guns.
This post was edited on 5/19/17 at 11:10 am
Posted on 5/19/17 at 11:07 am to Zach
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You know nothing about Saudi Arabia. If they catch anyone in ISIS or Al Queda in their country those people are dispatched with a quickness.
That's why OBL (a Saudi) never set foot in the country after he went radical. There was a price on his head.
Radical Islamic Terror wants the house of Saud gone and replaced by the Mullah's (think Iran).
This trip by Trump is an excellent idea in moving ahead with combating Islamic terrorism.
This is true but conveniently leaves out the part where KSA has been financing jihadist pursuits for decades to keep pressure on enemies other than the House of Saud
Posted on 5/19/17 at 11:10 am to reo45
Obama even went as far as to say we should engage our enemies and dialogue with them. Im not a fan of Saudia Arabia, but they have an impact on the world.
We're not talking about Sudan here.
We're not talking about Sudan here.
Posted on 5/19/17 at 11:10 am to reo45
It's good to meet with everyone. We don't know what will be discussed.
Posted on 5/19/17 at 11:14 am to Zach
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You know nothing about Saudi Arabia. If they catch anyone in ISIS or Al Queda in their country those people are dispatched with a quickness.
That's why OBL (a Saudi) never set foot in the country after he went radical. There was a price on his head.
Radical Islamic Terror wants the house of Saud gone and replaced by the Mullah's (think Iran).
This trip by Trump is an excellent idea in moving ahead with combating Islamic terrorism.
What the freak??? The same Saudi's from the 9/11 report that showed support and funding from Saudi's to terrorists that bombed us?? Those pages that were fought in court to never make the light of day?? That Saudi Arabia?? There is plenty of proof that Saudi Arabia was behind ISIS.. What the freak are you sniffing on? Whose bum? This is common knowledge. How in the hell do you think ISIS was funded derp? You do understand the nature of Proxy armies, correct? The leaked Hillary emails showed that Qatar and Saudi Arabia both funded ISIS.
The reason why Osama turned his back on the Saudi Government is because he knew they were frauds and con-men. They didn't live the life of a pure Islamist Muslim. They were drenched in debauchery and slept in the same bed as the Western Elite. But, that wasn't the case from the beginning. The 'Kingdom' uses men like Osama and others to do their work as long as they toe the line.
I am not taking up for that murderer Osama, but setting the facts straight. Saudi government is a fraud. It is neither Islamic or Muslim. They are elitists. There is PLENTY of open intel into the lives of the princes and family being full of sex-capades and other debauchery that goes against everything they enforce in their nation. They put on a scene of being one thing, but are totally different--just like all world leaders.
Posted on 5/19/17 at 11:17 am to reo45
Because Its called Diplomacy and they are, like it or not, a huge player on this planet and not just in the region.
You don't get to just meet and chat with the leaders of countries you are "butt-buddies" with when everyone else likes them too.
frick its like some people here think you either are totally cool, super best BFFFs with a nation like its a junior high click or something or you frickING NUKE THEM!! RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE.
What do you think Pandering means?
You don't get to just meet and chat with the leaders of countries you are "butt-buddies" with when everyone else likes them too.
frick its like some people here think you either are totally cool, super best BFFFs with a nation like its a junior high click or something or you frickING NUKE THEM!! RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE.
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Why in the heck we continue to pander to frauds is preposterous.
What do you think Pandering means?
Posted on 5/19/17 at 11:54 am to Tuscaloosa
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You likely know more about it than I do, but why did we not put more pressure on Saudi post-9/11?
Here is the very short story of SA and terror. Do you remember the Shah of Iran? He wanted to move Iran into modernity and have it become a European style state. He went too fast and pissed off the Mullahs and was overthrown. The lesson was not lost on the house of Saud.
The royal family also wants to modernize SA. They have been sending 1,000s of their brightest students to US colleges to study engineering, medicine, economics, etc...in order to lead the nation into modernity.
They have an excellent military with a huge percentage of officers who are actually members of the royal family.
But, the King still dresses like he rides around in the desert, they still yell 'Death to Israel' and they pay protection money to the old school sects in the nation.
IE, the royals have been engaged in a balancing act for over 50 years and so far it has succeeded.
SA is more pro American than any other Arab state in the region. Trump going there is an excellent idea that the MSM will predictably declare a stupid idea.
Posted on 5/19/17 at 11:55 am to Zach
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That's why OBL (a Saudi) never set foot in the country after he went radical. There was a price on his head.
A shitload of Saudi money funded his shite
Posted on 5/19/17 at 11:58 am to Wtodd
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A shitload of Saudi money funded his shite
Actually it was conservative hero Reagan who armed Al-Qaeda
Posted on 5/19/17 at 11:59 am to Wtodd
His father was a Saudi millionaire (construction). SA never gave money to OBL. Most of his funds came from mosques. It's kinda like the Catholic Church. When you put 10 bucks in the basket you don't know if a dollar went to the Irish Republican Army to blow up a British police station. And if they did know, some Irish Catholics would have put in 15 bucks.
Posted on 5/19/17 at 12:00 pm to reo45
He is meeting with a couple dozen leaders.
If you are meeting that many muslims you go near their religious sites.
Then he is going to Jerusalem and then Rome.
See a trend?
Same lobs who didn't care about pallets of cash to Iran are now "outraged"
Bet no pallets of money will be involved here
If you are meeting that many muslims you go near their religious sites.
Then he is going to Jerusalem and then Rome.
See a trend?
Same lobs who didn't care about pallets of cash to Iran are now "outraged"
Bet no pallets of money will be involved here
Posted on 5/19/17 at 12:00 pm to reo45
I'm with OP. We need to completely pull the frick out of the mid-east. Stop funding and arming ANY of those lunatics.
Posted on 5/19/17 at 12:02 pm to gthog61
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Bet no pallets of money will be involved here
Posted on 5/19/17 at 12:03 pm to gthog61
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Bet no pallets of money will be involved here
Other than the pallets of money the royal family uses every year to influence American institutions, education, politicians, etc.
Posted on 5/19/17 at 12:04 pm to Zach
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You know nothing about Saudi Arabia. If they catch anyone in ISIS or Al Queda in their country those people are dispatched with a quickness.
That's why OBL (a Saudi) never set foot in the country after he went radical. There was a price on his head.
Radical Islamic Terror wants the house of Saud gone and replaced by the Mullah's (think Iran).
That's a very one dimensional perspective.
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