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So the Chronicle of Higher Ed put out another SJW piece
Posted on 6/19/17 at 11:43 am
Posted on 6/19/17 at 11:43 am
"Where the Journey to College is No Fairy Tale"
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The article explores how horrible it is for low income students to have to WAIT for a scholarship/financial aid package before committing to attend.
One of the Facebook comments was pretty much every student does this.
An excerpt:
In late May, Seagoville High School’s Class of 2017 gathered for a ceremony that some students welcomed and others dreaded. It was "signing day," celebrating those bound for college, especially recipients of big academic scholarships and grants. The lucky students, sporting T-shirts from various campuses, sat on the right side of the auditorium.
The rest of the seniors — who had to sit in the middle — filled twice as many seats. They were "the undecideds," unsure where they were going to college. Though a few were slackers, many were top students with sterling grades, solid test scores, and clear ambitions. They wanted to pursue a major, a career, a life. They just weren’t sure yet which, if any, options they could afford.
"What about the University of Houston?" she asked.
"I don’t want to go there."
"Have you seen the financial-aid package?"
"Yeah. There’s only a $3,000 gap. I can afford that."
But ...
Mr. Hernandez, who was considering a career in the pharmaceutical industry, liked Houston’s chemistry program but much preferred Texas Tech’s campus and social scene. Those qualities mattered to him so much that he was ready to turn down Houston, the most affordable option.
LINK
The article explores how horrible it is for low income students to have to WAIT for a scholarship/financial aid package before committing to attend.
One of the Facebook comments was pretty much every student does this.
An excerpt:
In late May, Seagoville High School’s Class of 2017 gathered for a ceremony that some students welcomed and others dreaded. It was "signing day," celebrating those bound for college, especially recipients of big academic scholarships and grants. The lucky students, sporting T-shirts from various campuses, sat on the right side of the auditorium.
The rest of the seniors — who had to sit in the middle — filled twice as many seats. They were "the undecideds," unsure where they were going to college. Though a few were slackers, many were top students with sterling grades, solid test scores, and clear ambitions. They wanted to pursue a major, a career, a life. They just weren’t sure yet which, if any, options they could afford.
"What about the University of Houston?" she asked.
"I don’t want to go there."
"Have you seen the financial-aid package?"
"Yeah. There’s only a $3,000 gap. I can afford that."
But ...
Mr. Hernandez, who was considering a career in the pharmaceutical industry, liked Houston’s chemistry program but much preferred Texas Tech’s campus and social scene. Those qualities mattered to him so much that he was ready to turn down Houston, the most affordable option.
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Posted on 6/19/17 at 11:46 am to anc
quote:
"What about the University of Houston?" she asked.
"I don’t want to go there."
"Have you seen the financial-aid package?"
"Yeah. There’s only a $3,000 gap. I can afford that."
But ...
Mr. Hernandez, who was considering a career in the pharmaceutical industry, liked Houston’s chemistry program but much preferred Texas Tech’s campus and social scene. Those qualities mattered to him so much that he was ready to turn down Houston, the most affordable option.
as a person who passed up elite unis to go to LSU (both in undergrad and law school) as a budget option, i respectfully offer the following message: go frick yourself
Posted on 6/19/17 at 11:48 am to anc
quote:
Mr. Hernandez, who was considering a career in the pharmaceutical industry, liked Houston’s chemistry program but much preferred Texas Tech’s campus and social scene. Those qualities mattered to him so much that he was ready to turn down Houston, the most affordable option
I assume the author thinks that's going to somehow pull some heart strings?
Posted on 6/19/17 at 11:48 am to anc
Very few people are not in easy daily commuting distance from a university of some sort, be it a state school or a community college.
Higher education is not a right. Get a job, get a loan, study harder, etc.
You don't "deserve" to go out of state to school or to a private school.
I chose my school, with affordability as a consideration. I helped my children choose their school with affordability as a consideration.
Posted on 6/19/17 at 11:49 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:
as a person who passed up elite unis to go to LSU (both in undergrad and law school) as a budget option, i respectfully offer the following message: go frick yourself
Exactly. I saw the headline and was thinking elite universities. The whole article is about affordable in-state colleges but kids want to go somewhere else and "it's not fair."
A&M Commerce offers one kid so poor he can't take a shower every day (water is cut off) a $70k scholarship and he's upset he didn't get to go somewhere else.
I didn't grow up poor by any means. I never watched my parents struggle to pay a utility bill, but when the ends met, it was a good month. I was accepted to Vanderbilt but back then scholarships weren't need based. I ended up going to Mississippi State because
(1) It was close to home
(2) It was very affordable
Auburn actually offered a better scholarship, but it was further away and my mom was cionfident that could probably always afford the 4 gallons of gas it would take to get to/from Starkville rather than the two tanks to Auburn.
I wasn't happy. but I made the best of a shitty situation. That degree from Mississippi State means as much to my mom and dad as a degree from Harvard would have.
I went to LSU for graduate school because it was affordable. Met a Louisiana girl and married her and her cooking skills. Got fat.
Our children will have many more choices in life because of it, and these kids profiled in this story need to go frick themselves.
This post was edited on 6/19/17 at 11:56 am
Posted on 6/19/17 at 11:49 am to anc
quote:
Mr. Hernandez, who was considering a career in the pharmaceutical industry, liked Houston’s chemistry program but much preferred Texas Tech’s campus and social scene
So he cared more about partying vs. his career? Stupid frick
Posted on 6/19/17 at 11:52 am to anc
quote:
A&M Commerce offers one kid so poor he can't take a shower every day (water is cut off) a $70k scholarship and he's upset he didn't get to go somewhere else.
this is scary
quote:
A week later, representatives of the university came to Ms. Denestan’s fourth-period English class. They handed her a certificate and a backpack full of schwag: She had won the full-ride scholarship, which would close the gap in her aid package. Stunned, she posed for a photo with her mother, whom Ms. Morgan had invited to share in the surprise. This, the young woman thought, just made my life.
Ms. Morgan was happy for Ms. Denestan. Still, she urged her to at least consider one alternative — an out-of-state college that had sparked the teenager’s interest. A college adviser must think in terms of possibilities: The more, the better.
no no no
you get these kids in unfortunate situations the best scenario possible and push that. don't saddled these kids in fricking debt by chasing a fricking dream because of a simple, retarded platitude like "the more, the better"
Posted on 6/19/17 at 11:53 am to anc
Slightly different topic, but similar.
Regarding college athletic recruits and the availability of "full cost of attendance" scholarships and other things.
You hear all the crying about how little Johnny can't afford to fly home, or his parents can't afford to fly to come see him play, etc.
I went to school not too far from home. So did my children. (all LSU). Part of that decision was travel costs and distance.
If you are choosing a college and you may not be able to travel back and forth due to cost: Hint -- choose a closer college.
If you are broke, you might not want to go to school on the other side of the country.
Regarding college athletic recruits and the availability of "full cost of attendance" scholarships and other things.
You hear all the crying about how little Johnny can't afford to fly home, or his parents can't afford to fly to come see him play, etc.
I went to school not too far from home. So did my children. (all LSU). Part of that decision was travel costs and distance.
If you are choosing a college and you may not be able to travel back and forth due to cost: Hint -- choose a closer college.
If you are broke, you might not want to go to school on the other side of the country.
Posted on 6/19/17 at 11:53 am to anc
quote:
Texas Tech’s campus and social scene
Posted on 6/19/17 at 11:55 am to Bjorn Cyborg
quote:
Higher education is not a right. Get a job, get a loan, study harder, etc.
Or, you can blame your f*cking parents rather than society, join the Service and pay for it yourf*ckingself.
Posted on 6/19/17 at 11:55 am to SlowFlowPro
Advisors routinely tell students to pick the school they want and don't consider costs.
Follow your dreams!!!!!
Which is bullshite.
Follow your dreams!!!!!
Which is bullshite.
Posted on 6/19/17 at 11:56 am to Iosh
isn't TTech partyU?
like TSU and TTEch are 1/2, right?
like TSU and TTEch are 1/2, right?
Posted on 6/19/17 at 11:58 am to Bjorn Cyborg
quote:
Advisors routinely tell students to pick the school they want and don't consider costs.
Follow your dreams!!!!!
Which is bullshite.
100%
i have no sympathy for kids in these stories who thumb their nose at opportunities b/c they are being titty babies
quote:
"I try to be a logical person," he told Ms. Morgan. "But I don’t want to be logical when it comes to something that’s so important to me. I don’t want to, like, settle."
"I want a woman with thin ankles, but when I come home, there is going to be my wife
Posted on 6/19/17 at 12:03 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:That woman should be fired.
Ms. Morgan was happy for Ms. Denestan. Still, she urged her to at least consider one alternative — an out-of-state college that had sparked the teenager’s interest. A college adviser must think in terms of possibilities: The more, the better.
What horrible advice to give students.
Posted on 6/19/17 at 12:06 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:
"But I don’t want to be logical when it comes to something that’s so important to me. I don’t want to, like, settle."
Boy, this prick is in for some of life's hard lessons if he grows to be an old man.
Posted on 6/19/17 at 12:09 pm to anc
Good lord...
Even straight A students with killer ACT scores wait to see what the colleges will/can offer before enrolling. In fact, with the push towards "diversity," white and Asian kids sweat this more now that they used to.
Even straight A students with killer ACT scores wait to see what the colleges will/can offer before enrolling. In fact, with the push towards "diversity," white and Asian kids sweat this more now that they used to.
Posted on 6/19/17 at 12:10 pm to Scruffy
quote:
That woman should be fired.
What horrible advice to give students.
it's possibly the most perfect "heart v. head" displays
i understand where her heart is at, but her head should be overruling the living frick out of that bullshite advice
Posted on 6/19/17 at 12:10 pm to anc
quote:
Mr. Hernandez, who was considering a career in the pharmaceutical industry, liked Houston’s chemistry program but much preferred Texas Tech’s campus and social scene. Those qualities mattered to him so much that he was ready to turn down Houston, the most affordable option.
tbf, UH in the third ward and pretty damn expensive to live in a safe place. The Third is slowly gentrifying so prices are going up to live in a pretty rough hood.
Posted on 6/19/17 at 12:15 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:
isn't TTech partyU?
like TSU and TTEch are 1/2, right?
Pretty much, both filled with dumbasses which is always a good time.
State is in a much better location.
Posted on 6/19/17 at 12:18 pm to Dire Wolf
quote:
State is in a much better location.
much requires some capitalization, bold, and possibly underlines
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