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re: So, I been thinking, are the Mexican's Cartel the new world superpower?
Posted on 1/13/14 at 11:20 am to Duzz
Posted on 1/13/14 at 11:20 am to Duzz
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They are always a step above the FBI, the CIA, We can't even prosecute or take care of them within our own borders. They can order a strike anywhere at any time.
Not to mention they get their guns direct from Eric Holder.
Posted on 1/13/14 at 11:28 am to Volvagia
Do the cartels really move that much weed?
Posted on 1/13/14 at 11:42 am to SDVTiger
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This is such a retarded statement
You're welcome to try to refute it.
Posted on 1/13/14 at 11:49 am to Jim Rockford
The top people in the cartels are all well educated and most are from extremely wealthy familys
The soldiers are the low level thugs.
Again your statement is false and retarded
The soldiers are the low level thugs.
Again your statement is false and retarded
Posted on 1/13/14 at 12:25 pm to SDVTiger
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The top people in the cartels are all well educated and most are from extremely wealthy familys
El Chapo Guzman came from a poor village in the Sierra Madre. Luis Palma Salazar started out as a car thief. Angel Felix Gallardo was a cop and bodyguard before he flipped to the other side. There's three of the top cartel guys who were not from wealth families.
Posted on 1/13/14 at 12:27 pm to Jim Rockford
I notice the '12 debates didn't mention Mexico.
Posted on 1/13/14 at 12:30 pm to Jim Rockford
You're talking about 40-50yrs ago.
Times have changed bro
Posted on 1/13/14 at 12:37 pm to DosManos
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Do the cartels really move that much weed?
They move a lot of weed, but they know that much of it will be confiscated. The money from weed sales funds all their coke, heroin and meth operations and that's where their real money comes from. Legalizing weed will take away their funding for most of their operations.
Posted on 1/13/14 at 12:43 pm to SDVTiger
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You're talking about 40-50yrs ago.
None of those guys are from 40-50 years ago. Guzman is still at large. Gallardo is incarcerated, but his neice is still active in the cartel, and she's not from a wealthy family either.
Posted on 1/13/14 at 1:00 pm to Jim Rockford
30/50yrs whats the difference.
Im aware of whats going on
And Sandra grew up far from poor
Im aware of whats going on
And Sandra grew up far from poor
Posted on 1/13/14 at 1:05 pm to Jim Rockford
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The cartels real power is miniscule
Disagree.
They OWN Mexico - everything from the politicians to the police, mining both for ore and oil, ports and in/outroads. That isn't "real power" to you?
Posted on 1/13/14 at 1:09 pm to idlewatcher
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They OWN Mexico - everything from the politicians to the police, mining both for ore and oil, ports and in/outroads. That isn't "real power" to you?
They hardly "own" Mexico. It takes a lot of cash to maintain the payoffs that keep them safe. Legalization dries up that supply of cash. This is a plus for the end of the cartels, not a minus.
Posted on 1/13/14 at 1:11 pm to SDVTiger
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30/50yrs whats the difference.
"Still at large" is neither 30 nor 50 years.
Posted on 1/13/14 at 1:11 pm to idlewatcher
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They OWN Mexico - everything from the politicians to the police, mining both for ore and oil, ports and in/outroads. That isn't "real power" to you?
well in terms of the subject of this thread, i can disprove the assertions easily
assume the cartels control mexico. is mexico a superpower? frick no. how can the cartels be considered one?
Posted on 1/13/14 at 2:52 pm to Jim Rockford
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They hardly "own" Mexico. It takes a lot of cash to maintain the payoffs that keep them safe. Legalization dries up that supply of cash. This is a plus for the end of the cartels, not a minus.
Well, we'll just have to agree to disagree on this front then.
Legalization of pot would in fact dry up that supply of cash, meanwhile, these cartels have flexed their muscle into meth, heroin, kidnapping and other drugs/illicit activities as well so its not a zero sum game anymore.
Posted on 1/13/14 at 3:39 pm to idlewatcher
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Legalization of pot would in fact dry up that supply of cash, meanwhile, these cartels have flexed their muscle into meth, heroin, kidnapping and other drugs/illicit activities as well so its not a zero sum game anymore.
As did the American Mob. They're still here, in a variety of areas, but they're nothing like during Prohibition. Ending the drug war won't completely eliminate organized crime, but it will put a huge dent in it.
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