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re: Should we bring back the literacy test?

Posted on 11/4/14 at 9:08 am to
Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 11/4/14 at 9:08 am to
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So those companies and industries with subsidies and their employees are no longer allowed to vote, either?

What about lobbyist organizations? Defense contract companies? General contractors? Construction?

All of those people steal WAY more money than the poors and uneducated.


Since when do companies vote?


(Not that I disagree with your overall subsidies point.)
Posted by CherryGarciaMan
Sugar Magnolia
Member since Aug 2012
2497 posts
Posted on 11/4/14 at 9:09 am to
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Since when do companies vote?


Aren't they people too, my friend?
Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
48309 posts
Posted on 11/4/14 at 9:11 am to
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Aren't they people too, my friend?


No. And they don't have the ability to vote unlike welfare recipients. I think its a poor comparison.
Posted by CherryGarciaMan
Sugar Magnolia
Member since Aug 2012
2497 posts
Posted on 11/4/14 at 9:14 am to
Romney said it.
Not CherryGarcia.

And, you're missing the overall point that it isn't the welfare recepients fleecing the country, but the interested powers that fund the campaigns every two to four years.

Literacy test or not, the American public is getting screwed. Simply dropping the R or D on the ballot would do wonders for our Republic.
Posted by SpidermanTUba
my house
Member since May 2004
36128 posts
Posted on 11/4/14 at 9:19 am to
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Not simply voting the way they are paid to without even understanding what they are voting for.



really dude?
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68212 posts
Posted on 11/4/14 at 9:20 am to
No just a civics test such as "Name the Secretary of State" or "How many justices make up the USSC?"
This post was edited on 11/4/14 at 9:21 am
Posted by CherryGarciaMan
Sugar Magnolia
Member since Aug 2012
2497 posts
Posted on 11/4/14 at 9:26 am to
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No just a civics test such as "Name the Secretary of State" or "How many justices make up the USSC?"


How many people would fail that test?

At least 40% of the population.
Posted by TOKEN
Member since Feb 2014
11990 posts
Posted on 11/4/14 at 9:29 am to
The GOP showing its true colors.

There have been French, Italians, Irish, Chinese, etc. that couldn't pass a literacy test in the past. They were allowed to vote. It's hard to imagine this is anything but discriminating against Latinos and Blacks that have a higher illiteracy rate.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68212 posts
Posted on 11/4/14 at 9:30 am to
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How many people would fail that test?

At least 40% of the population.


Actually probably 70% of the population and 40% of those who bother to vote. It's sad that those ignorant about such basic information wield so much influence on others.
Posted by Wolfhound45
Hanging with Chicken in Lurkistan
Member since Nov 2009
120000 posts
Posted on 11/4/14 at 9:32 am to
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yeah, cause nothing said on this board has anything to do with race until I bring it up.

Nothing was said until you brought it up, correct.
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We're talking about literacy tests. No way for it to not be racial since that was the entire purpose of it originally.

Though I disagree with it, you have not made your case this is the reason from the OP. None. You simply assumed (which is most of what you do).

Quite frankly, most of our population is politically illiterate. Would love to see an initiative that eliminates straight ticket voting and removes the "R" and the "D" from the ballot. Then we will get some degree of political literacy.
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 11/4/14 at 9:33 am to
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What we really lose that much from not letting illiterate people vote?
Sounds like you're illiterate yourself.
quote:

Section 1. The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of race, color, or previous condition of servitude. Section 2. The Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.[1]
Posted by Wolfhound45
Hanging with Chicken in Lurkistan
Member since Nov 2009
120000 posts
Posted on 11/4/14 at 9:33 am to
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here. In this thread.

Yeah because offering a concept on a internet forum really suppresses the vote.

I actually have a fairly good one. But you are going to have to work for it.
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
54209 posts
Posted on 11/4/14 at 9:33 am to
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At least 40% of the population.


Amazing that people that have investments in entities that affect their portfolio want the best minds making the decisions for them but when it comes to voting for the political leaders of the greatest country in the world, then intelligence is not required to pull that lever. Mindboggling.
Posted by Wolfhound45
Hanging with Chicken in Lurkistan
Member since Nov 2009
120000 posts
Posted on 11/4/14 at 9:34 am to
quote:

Simply dropping the R or D on the ballot would do wonders for our Republic.
Posted by TN Bhoy
San Antonio, TX
Member since Apr 2010
60589 posts
Posted on 11/4/14 at 9:37 am to
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How many people would fail that test?



A ton. And that would be a good thing. Uninformed people shouldn't vote.
This post was edited on 11/4/14 at 9:38 am
Posted by SpidermanTUba
my house
Member since May 2004
36128 posts
Posted on 11/4/14 at 9:43 am to
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Uninformed people shouldn't vote.




Being illiterate and being uninformed aren't the same thing. There are plenty of people who are one but not the other and vice versa.

Another person mentioned an IQ tests. Also not the same thing.

There are three different metrics being thrown about in this thread - literacy, intelligence, and being well informed.

Take the average tea partier. Well informed - yes. Intelligent - No. Illiterate - Often.

This post was edited on 11/4/14 at 9:46 am
Posted by TN Bhoy
San Antonio, TX
Member since Apr 2010
60589 posts
Posted on 11/4/14 at 9:44 am to
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Being illiterate and being uninformed aren't the same thing. There are plenty of people who are one but not the other.




Nowhere in this thread have I advocated for a literacy test. However, based on your post, it seems that you would fail one.
Posted by SpidermanTUba
my house
Member since May 2004
36128 posts
Posted on 11/4/14 at 9:45 am to
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Nowhere in this thread have I advocated for a literacy test. However, based on your post, it seems that you would fail one.



Nowhere in this thread have I claimed you advocated for a literacy test. However, based on your post, it seems that you would fail one.
Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
48309 posts
Posted on 11/4/14 at 9:47 am to

quote:

Sounds like you're illiterate yourself.



quote:

Section 1. The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of race, color, or previous condition of servitude. Section 2. The Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.[1]


There is nothing in this Amendment that specifically excludes the use of tests or poll taxes.
Posted by BigJim
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
14491 posts
Posted on 11/4/14 at 9:50 am to
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There is nothing in this Amendment that specifically excludes the use of tests or poll taxes.
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