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Should the Coast Guard and Border Patrol become one group?
Posted on 1/5/17 at 10:41 am
Posted on 1/5/17 at 10:41 am
The Coast Guard is one of our armed military services, while the Border Patrol is a law enforcement, employee-based department.
I know they are both part of DHS, but it appears they have a totally different structure, for a similar-type job.
It seems to me that our border should be secured by a more career military type group, than a unionized government police force.
I know they are both part of DHS, but it appears they have a totally different structure, for a similar-type job.
It seems to me that our border should be secured by a more career military type group, than a unionized government police force.
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Posted on 1/5/17 at 10:45 am to Bjorn Cyborg
no..Though the USCG is a pseudo law enforcement entity, it is still a military organization. CBP and the USCG are incompatible.
Posted on 1/5/17 at 10:48 am to Port Royal
I'm not asking them to be compatible. I'm asking if the CBP should be disbanded and their duties taken over by the coast guard.
How is protecting our water borders that different from protecting our land borders?
How is protecting our water borders that different from protecting our land borders?
Posted on 1/5/17 at 10:50 am to Port Royal
The armed forces are governed by Title 10 and Title 32 (National Guard).
The USCG is governed by Title 14.
They are not the same. The USCG is more compatible with the Border Patrol than it is with the U.S. Navy.
The USCG is governed by Title 14.
They are not the same. The USCG is more compatible with the Border Patrol than it is with the U.S. Navy.
Posted on 1/5/17 at 10:51 am to The Maj
That's kind of what I'm getting at.
We have traditional military.
We have the Coast Guard.
We have border patrol.
Why so many divisions? Seems some consolidation is in order.
We have traditional military.
We have the Coast Guard.
We have border patrol.
Why so many divisions? Seems some consolidation is in order.
Posted on 1/5/17 at 10:57 am to Bjorn Cyborg
The USCG and ICE already lump under the Department of Homeland Security. The missions are different and I really do not see a benefit of combining the two.
FYI, the USCG was under the Department of Transportation until around 2004.
FYI, the USCG was under the Department of Transportation until around 2004.
Posted on 1/5/17 at 10:57 am to Bjorn Cyborg
No
Posted on 1/5/17 at 10:59 am to The Maj
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The missions are different
Not arguing with you, because I am genuinely curious. How is it different? They are both guarding our borders.
ETA: Missions can be changed. It seems a lot of things are changing.
This post was edited on 1/5/17 at 11:00 am
Posted on 1/5/17 at 11:00 am to Bjorn Cyborg
Sure. Whatever reduces waste and bureaucratic overhead I'm all for.
Posted on 1/5/17 at 11:03 am to Bjorn Cyborg
Posted on 1/5/17 at 11:04 am to The Maj
Get rid of DHS too while we're at it.
Posted on 1/5/17 at 11:04 am to Bjorn Cyborg
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How is it different?
Search and rescue?
Posted on 1/5/17 at 11:08 am to Bjorn Cyborg
quote:Some overlap in mission =/= same mission. They have differing missions. They're pretty interoperable. They don't need to combine.
The Coast Guard is one of our armed military services, while the Border Patrol is a law enforcement, employee-based department.
I know they are both part of DHS, but it appears they have a totally different structure, for a similar-type job.
It seems to me that our border should be secured by a more career military type group, than a unionized government police force.
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