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re: Serious question about white male privilege

Posted on 2/17/17 at 4:34 pm to
Posted by ShortyRob
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Posted on 2/17/17 at 4:34 pm to
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anything to back this up with other than your personal feelings and beliefs on statistics
You mean other than the copious facts?
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 2/17/17 at 4:37 pm to
Sports is probably the only place where women aren't compensated the same based on performance. At least it seems that way.

Posted by FanInLA
Member since May 2008
4966 posts
Posted on 2/17/17 at 4:38 pm to
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Women who are computer programmers, chefs and dentists... earn 72 cents for every dollar men in those same positions earn.


LINK

The gap is there. It's getting better but it's there.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 2/17/17 at 4:40 pm to
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why is it so difficult to just pay everyone a similar wage relative to their job performance?


Never worked anywhere that didn't.
Posted by FanInLA
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 2/17/17 at 4:40 pm to
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Sports is probably the only place where women aren't compensated the same based on performance. At least it seems that way.


That's because you watch sports on TV and can look up there salaries. You don't have insight on other professions.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 2/17/17 at 4:41 pm to
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The gap is there. It's getting better but it's there.


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The study, based on more than 500,000 salary reports from its users, compared the pay of men and women with the same job title, at similar companies, in the same state, with similar levels of education and experience.
Even after making this apples-to-apples comparison,


They call that apples to apples, but it's not. It's closer to apples to apples, bUT not quite.

And that brought it to 95 cents in the dollar
This post was edited on 2/17/17 at 4:43 pm
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 2/17/17 at 4:42 pm to
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Never worked anywhere that didn't.


I worked at a bar where females were favored. But I would make more tips because I spent more time doing my job and actually serving people.
Posted by 9th life
birmingham
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 2/17/17 at 4:42 pm to
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You mean other than the copious facts?


Link?
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 2/17/17 at 4:44 pm to
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Link
You mean like the one already posted in the thread that had a 95 cents on the dollar number?

The 77 cent number is so widely debunked that anyone using it outs themselves as stupid or as liars
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261678 posts
Posted on 2/17/17 at 4:49 pm to
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I worked at a bar where females were favored. But I would make more tips because I spent more time doing my job and actually serving people


In my line of work women are favored. Pay is the same but they are exempt from most outside duties which is expected of all employees.
Posted by RBWilliams8
Member since Oct 2009
53418 posts
Posted on 2/17/17 at 4:50 pm to
I wonder if they're going to demand equal treatment by paying the same insurance as men.
Posted by DeafVallyBatnR
Member since Sep 2004
16875 posts
Posted on 2/17/17 at 4:51 pm to
I want my White Privilege because I must have missed it when they were passing it out.
Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
19713 posts
Posted on 2/17/17 at 4:53 pm to
The wage gap is largely mythical. What they list is not wages but mean earnings for 'full time's workers, that men make like 22% more. What is not included are all the other factors, such as career field choices ( the top 10 highest paying majors are dominated by men, the top 10 lowest paying majors are dominated by women), the fact that women are more likely to take career pauses or take jobs with flexible hours or good benefits but lower pay. It's also does not factor in that on average men work about 4 hours more each week. Studies that do more analysis than just taking a mean take the wage gap down to like 3%, which is just about within the margin of error of such studies. It's already federal law that people of equal qualifications and experience be paid the same wage, which is what happens. The wage gap does not describe equal pay for equal work, but that's how it's presented in arguments
Posted by Tammany Tom
Mandeville
Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 2/17/17 at 4:53 pm to
Posted by FanInLA
Member since May 2008
4966 posts
Posted on 2/17/17 at 4:54 pm to
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The 77 cent number is so widely debunked that anyone using it outs themselves as stupid or as liars


So you agree with some of the article but not this part ?
Posted by MizzouBS
Missouri
Member since Dec 2014
5854 posts
Posted on 2/17/17 at 4:57 pm to
I have never understand white male privilege.

It may have been a issue over 20 years ago.

Maybe I am not around enough minorities.
Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
35009 posts
Posted on 2/17/17 at 5:03 pm to
White males did have a great advantage when manufacturing/production was muscle and bone, and the major determinant for innate individual value. As a generality, men are more apt to be adventurous, to gamble for what might be...therein creative. Traditionally, women are more conservative, organized and careful...for both genetic and cultural reasons.

We got to where we are by men fighting, and women having children and holding the home down. Those genes don't go away quickly; though the Culture is changing fast. The whole 'white male privilege' is part of that Cultural change; more a petty ego mind game than empirically true nowadays.

Race/Minority wise...generally, White men certainly aren't privileged in Professional Sports. Genetically inferior in that respect. Obviously.

Just my 2 cents.
Posted by Seldom Seen
Member since Feb 2016
40482 posts
Posted on 2/17/17 at 5:04 pm to
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Serious question about white male privilege




Yes, it's pretty fricking awesome.
Posted by mahdragonz
Member since Jun 2013
6946 posts
Posted on 2/17/17 at 5:06 pm to
Whole lotta snowflakes in this thread.

Little white things that melt with the slightest heat
Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
51814 posts
Posted on 2/17/17 at 5:55 pm to
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The gap is there. It's getting better but it's there.


I hear this from the Left quite often but as yet the only specific evidence I've ever seen brought forth to substantiate that argument was of the Obama administration's pay gap.

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A study released in January showed that female White House staff members make on average 88 cents for every dollar a male staff member earns.
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