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Serious question. How is hush money a crime?

Posted on 3/26/24 at 8:21 am
Posted by Geekboy
Member since Jan 2004
4926 posts
Posted on 3/26/24 at 8:21 am
We had sex but I’ll give you a couple of thousand not to say anything. How is that a crime? How does that have a negative impact on society?
Posted by Nosevens
Member since Apr 2019
10265 posts
Posted on 3/26/24 at 8:24 am to
If done with a NDA it probably isn’t, members of Congress ought to be squirming about this. Lots of settlements among people are done to keeps things quiet and Trumps was no different. What is a play here is a supposed campaign violation which is not criminal in this case .
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
139831 posts
Posted on 3/26/24 at 8:24 am to
I think it depends on how it’s paid and whether or not it’s paid to stay quiet about something illegal.

Didn’t they also try to tie it to the election somehow?

I just can believe that this many years later they are still trying this shite.
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
23666 posts
Posted on 3/26/24 at 8:25 am to
Depends on where the money comes from and how you classify it. If it is campaign funds, that would be the misuse of tax free campaign money for a personal expense. If it is business funds written off as a business expense, that would be a tax avoidance crime.

If one pays hush money with their own funds, it isn't a crime. The criminal aspect has everything to do with the tax laws or the campaign finance laws.
Posted by deathvalleytiger10
Member since Sep 2009
7560 posts
Posted on 3/26/24 at 8:35 am to
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tax avoidance crime
Posted by LegalEazyE
Madison, Wisconsin
Member since Nov 2023
2005 posts
Posted on 3/26/24 at 8:43 am to
It isn't... but false claims of "muh campaign funds were used" would make it an ethical quandary.
Posted by shinerfan
Duckworld(Earth-616)
Member since Sep 2009
22193 posts
Posted on 3/26/24 at 8:44 am to
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If it is campaign funds, that would be the misuse of tax free campaign money for a personal expense.



In 2016 Trump spent more of his own money than he took in in campaign donations. Candidates are allowed to reimburse themselves from donations. In that situation it is not possible to misuse campaign funds.
Posted by momentoftruth87
Member since Oct 2013
71272 posts
Posted on 3/26/24 at 8:45 am to
How do you get taxed for giving something away? You could say that would be on the other individual to take care of but doubt it happens.
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
14344 posts
Posted on 3/26/24 at 8:47 am to
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How do you get taxed for giving something away?


I think he is saying if you write it off as a business expense.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
421945 posts
Posted on 3/26/24 at 8:47 am to
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How do you get taxed for giving something away?

I imagine a possible tax deduction may cause that issue

And Trump's issue is a business records issue via that wonky NY business record law
Posted by momentoftruth87
Member since Oct 2013
71272 posts
Posted on 3/26/24 at 8:49 am to
If tax laws allow it… that’s the thing Trump isn’t filing his taxes or claiming deductions himself
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
421945 posts
Posted on 3/26/24 at 9:07 am to
Well to be clear, I'm not sure if they are in hot water for tax/deduction/expense issues. It's how he routed money that may have run afoul of the (wonky) law.

Those were 2 statements about 2 separate issues/arguments.
Posted by Datbawwwww
Member since Oct 2023
174 posts
Posted on 3/26/24 at 9:11 am to
Sounds like he needs a lesson from fat arse Fanny!!!
Posted by Bayou
CenLA
Member since Feb 2005
36785 posts
Posted on 3/26/24 at 9:12 am to
quote:

How do you get taxed for giving something away?

Posted by 20 ton
BR
Member since Aug 2013
795 posts
Posted on 3/26/24 at 9:13 am to
New York law outlaws it if it covers a crime. Where this reaches into novel legal theory is the stated crime is federal campaign finance laws Bragg has no justification to prosecute and has been investigated and passed on by people that could.

Bragg claims the payments were solely to protect the campaign. There is precedent of a politican claiming it was to protect his family and the court agreeing.

These frivolous suits have never been prosecuted before because of the threat of mutually assured destruction. The republicans/ uniparty has signed off on these because “GET TRUMP “.
Posted by TerryDawg03
The Deep South
Member since Dec 2012
15675 posts
Posted on 3/26/24 at 9:20 am to
quote:

We had sex but I’ll give you a couple of thousand not to say anything. How is that a crime? How does that have a negative impact on society?


Levin had a great point about this last night.

The very news agencies and courts that are going after Trump for an NDA have certainly used them themselves. There’s nothing illegal about an NDA, and it’s not “hush money.” It’s a legally binding agreement to not disclose information. M&As use them all the time.

The only issue might be the source of the funds, as mentioned.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
94918 posts
Posted on 3/26/24 at 9:22 am to
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It isn't... but false claims of "muh campaign funds were used" would make it an ethical quandary.


Didn’t John Edwards get cleared of doing this despite him knocking up a campaign employee and paying her off?
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