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Senate GOP passes budget bill allowing them to pass Trump tax plan without any Dem votes

Posted on 10/19/17 at 11:43 pm
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
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Posted on 10/19/17 at 11:43 pm
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Good news. I just think at least one of Murkowski, mccain, or collins will vote for some form of tax reform.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67482 posts
Posted on 10/20/17 at 6:17 am to
Elections have consequences

Nuclear options have consequences

Passing shitty legislation the past 8 yrs have consequences

Posted by Janky
Team Primo
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Posted on 10/20/17 at 6:18 am to
Still 50/50 at best they get anything done.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67482 posts
Posted on 10/20/17 at 6:25 am to
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50/50

And this is 500% better than we had the past 8 yrs
This post was edited on 10/20/17 at 6:26 am
Posted by Bamatab
Member since Jan 2013
15108 posts
Posted on 10/20/17 at 6:38 am to
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I just think at least one of Murkowski, mccain, or collins will vote for some form of tax reform.

And what in their voting record gives you that notion? I would love to hear the reasoning as to why each of these 3 plus Paul might actually vote for this. McCain will vote against it just to spite Trump. Paul will vote against it because he'll say it will raise the debt. Collins is a north eastern liberal. And I have no idea why Murkowski, from such a conservative state as Alaska, keeps voting against the Republicans, but she does. I just don't have very much faith in any of them right now, and it's a damn shame none of them are up for reelection in '18 (except for Paul since his only flaw is being too conservative, if that is even possible).
This post was edited on 10/20/17 at 6:40 am
Posted by tigersbh
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
10233 posts
Posted on 10/20/17 at 7:24 am to
Worth repeating- ALL Democrats voted against it. And they would have no matter what the budget looked like.
Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
27529 posts
Posted on 10/20/17 at 8:07 am to
Am I reading this correctly that budget is going to the president's desk; one that he is likely to sign?

When is the last time THAT happened? Or am I reading this wrong and it's not an actual budget?
Posted by BestBanker
Member since Nov 2011
17474 posts
Posted on 10/20/17 at 8:09 am to
Don't need em
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
95188 posts
Posted on 10/20/17 at 8:09 am to
Last time we had a budget was either in W’s term or in Obama’s first two years in office. We haven’t had one for at least 6 years.
Posted by BestBanker
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 10/20/17 at 8:10 am to
I was thinking at least 7 yrs no budget
Posted by udtiger
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Posted on 10/20/17 at 8:31 am to
Posted by TigersFan64
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 10/20/17 at 8:32 am to
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Good news


For the ultra rich, like Trump, and corporations, as most of the tax cuts will go to them. This is hardly going to be a "middle-class" tax cut, as it will only get a sliver of what members of the lucky-sperm club like Trump and the Walton family will get.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 10/20/17 at 8:37 am to
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ultra rich


Hmmm...

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like Trump


Okay so far...

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and corporations


Are you saying corporations are the "ultra rich"?

Regardless, reducing corporate tax rates (and making repatriation of money held overseas) is nothing but a flat out WIN for the economy AND the public fisc.

quote:

This is hardly going to be a "middle-class" tax cut, as it will only get a sliver of what members of the lucky-sperm club like Trump and the Walton family will get


And how much in taxes to these people pay? You do realize that the rate that will apply to most of their income will only be reduced to 35% from 39.5%, right?
Posted by GeorgePaton
God's Country
Member since May 2017
4495 posts
Posted on 10/20/17 at 8:49 am to
Drain the Swamp, repeal obamacare, continue to buildup our Military, take care of our Veterans (especially our wounded warriors), end abortion, LOCK HER UP, cut taxes to Middle Class Families. To all you Repubs in Congress who jumped on the train during the campaign, time to deliver.

One more thing.....

Respect our National Anthem and Flag.

MAGA!




This post was edited on 10/20/17 at 8:51 am
Posted by Cooter Davenport
Austin, TX
Member since Apr 2012
9006 posts
Posted on 10/20/17 at 11:24 am to
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I just think at least one of Murkowski, mccain, or collins will vote for some form of tax reform.


I doubt it.

Murkowski and Collins are straight party ticket Democrats who for some reason "identity as" Republicans. They're the political equivalent of transsexuals.

Juan McCuck is deranged, he has a literal brain tumor, and his sole purpose in continuing to live is to vote against anything Trump wants.
Posted by TigersFan64
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2014
4755 posts
Posted on 10/20/17 at 11:28 am to
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Regardless, reducing corporate tax rates


You do realize that corporations don't pay anywhere NEAR the marginal tax rates that the Republicans are screeching about? Due to all the tax breaks and loopholes, corporations ALREADY are getting a windfall. And it's totally untrue that the U.S. is the highest taxed in the industrial world, anyway. That is another one of Trump's bald-faced lies.

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You do realize that the rate that will apply to most of their income will only be reduced to 35% from 39.5%,


And you do realize the 39.5% rate only affects the affluent, right? If the Republicans want to spout off about how this is a "middle-class" tax cut, why not MAKE it truly a "middle-class" tax cut, and target it only at the middle class?

Besides, Trump is pushing for much deeper tax cuts than that, and you well know it. He and the Republicans are also pushing to do away with the federal estate tax, which definitely only affects the very, very wealthy. Doing away with the estate tax will not help the middle-class at all, since only 1 in 1,000 American households are affected by it.
Posted by TigersFan64
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2014
4755 posts
Posted on 10/20/17 at 11:48 am to
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Regardless, reducing corporate tax rates (and making repatriation of money held overseas) is nothing but a flat out WIN for the economy AND the public fisc.


No, not a flat-out win. All objective analysis of the Trump/Republican tax plan say it will add at least $1.5 trillion to the national debt over ten years. That's anathema to fiscally responsible people, people who actually care about federal deficits and debt. Oh, but I forgot, you so-called "conservatives" only care about deficits and national debt when it's a Democratic President in the WH.
This post was edited on 10/20/17 at 11:49 am
Posted by UFMatt
Gator Nation - Everywhere
Member since Oct 2010
11440 posts
Posted on 10/20/17 at 11:52 am to
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For the ultra rich, like Trump, and corporations, as most of the tax cuts will go to them. This is hardly going to be a "middle-class" tax cut, as it will only get a sliver of what members of the lucky-sperm club like Trump and the Walton family will get.


And just who pays most of taxes, dumb asset?
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69279 posts
Posted on 10/20/17 at 11:58 am to
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All objective analysis of the Trump/Republican tax plan say it will add at least $1.5 trillion to the national debt over ten years.
"all objective analysis" being ONE study by the tax policy center, a left wing think tank.

The politically incorrect truth man is that the middle class is already getting a really good deal in our current tax system.

Posted by Govt Tide
Member since Nov 2009
9112 posts
Posted on 10/20/17 at 11:59 am to
Well....that's 7.5 trillion less than Obama added to the national debt in 8 years so at least it's an improvement
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