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re: Sen. Cory Gardner (R-Colo.): White nationalists can't be part of GOP base

Posted on 8/13/17 at 1:02 pm to
Posted by silverdude
Member since Mar 2017
216 posts
Posted on 8/13/17 at 1:02 pm to
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The "Southern Strategy" is a Marxist deconstruction of American politics that seeks to alleviate the Democratic Party of it's historical responsibility for slavery, Jim Crow etc-and transfer it onto the Republican Party who opposed slavery and Jim Crow. It only works in Prog circle jerks. Educate yourself.


how did you come up with that mental gymnastics.

Republican party members have admitted to using it.


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It has become, for liberals and leftists enraged by the way Republicans never suffer the consequences for turning electoral politics into a cesspool, a kind of smoking gun. The late, legendarily brutal campaign consultant Lee Atwater explains how Republicans can win the vote of racists without sounding racist themselves:

You start out in 1954 by saying, “N----, n-----, ****.” By 1968 you can’t say “n-----”—that hurts you, backfires. So you say stuff like, uh, forced busing, states’ rights, and all that stuff, and you’re getting so abstract. Now, you’re talking about cutting taxes, and all these things you’re talking about are totally economic things and a byproduct of them is, blacks get hurt worse than whites.… “We want to cut this,” is much more abstract than even the busing thing, uh, and a hell of a lot more abstract than “N-----, n------.”


The back-story goes like this. In 1981, Atwater, after a decade as South Carolina's most effective Republican operative, was working in Ronald Reagan's White House when he was interviewed by Alexander Lamis, a political scientist at Case Western Reserve University. Lamis published the interview without using Atwater's name in his 1984 book The Two-Party South. Fifteen years later—and eight years after Atwater passed away from cancer—Lamis republished the interview in another book using Atwater’s name. For seven years no one paid much attention. Then the New York Times' Bob Herbert, a bit of an Atwater obsessive, quoted it in an October 6, 2005 column—then five more times over the next four years.

Which one particular Republican spinmeister, when he wasn't preening before political scientists, knew fully well—which was why, seven years after that interview, in his stated goal to “rip the bark off the little bastard [Michael Dukakis]” on behalf of his candidate George H.W. Bush, Atwater ran the infamous ad blaming Dukakis for an escaped Massachusetts convict, Willie Horton, “repeatedly raping” an apparently white girl. Indeed, Atwater pledged to make "Willie Horton his running mate." The commercial was sponsored by a dummy outfit called the National Security Political Action Committee—which it is true, was a whole lot more abstract than saying "n-----, n------, n-----."

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Following Bush's re-election, Ken Mehlman, Bush's campaign manager and Chairman of the RNC, held several large meetings in 2005 with African-American business, community, and religious leaders. In his speeches, he apologized for his party's use of the Southern Strategy in the past. When
asked about the strategy of using race as an issue to build GOP dominance in the once-Democratic South, Mehlman replied,

Republican candidates often have prospered by ignoring black voters and even by exploiting racial tensions ... by the '70s and into the '80s and '90s, the Democratic Party solidified its gains in the African-American community, and we Republicans did not effectively reach out. Some Republicans gave up on winning the African-American vote, looking the other way or trying to benefit politically from racial polarization. I am here today as the Republican chairman to tell you we were wrong


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Former RNC head Michael Steele:

Why should an African-American vote Republican?

“You really don’t have a reason to, to be honest — we haven’t done a very good job of really giving you one. True? True,”

“…We have lost sight of the historic, integral link between the party and African-Americans,” Steele said. “This party was co-founded by blacks, among them Frederick Douglass. The Republican Party had a hand in forming the NAACP, and yet we have mistreated that relationship. People don’t walk away from parties, Their parties walk away from them.

“For the last 40-plus years we had a ‘Southern Strategy’ that alienated many minority voters by focusing on the white male vote in the South. Well, guess what happened in 1992, folks, ‘Bubba’ went back home to the Democratic Party and voted for Bill Clinton.”


This post was edited on 8/13/17 at 1:03 pm
Posted by Dotherightthing
Member since Mar 2017
366 posts
Posted on 8/13/17 at 1:03 pm to
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This post was edited on 9/24/20 at 10:27 pm
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
78964 posts
Posted on 8/13/17 at 1:07 pm to
No. Again that's just lazy Prog analysis. What got him elected was that he appealed to working class people in very specific battleground states. Make America Great Again is a far cry from the ten page list of Balkanized groups that comprise the Democratic Party.
Posted by Gaspergou202
Metairie, LA
Member since Jun 2016
13501 posts
Posted on 8/13/17 at 1:09 pm to
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I still have yet to see a definition for what a "white nationalist" actually is.

I had wondered about this suddenly popular term as well. Then I realized is was just a new insult libtards had created to replace old worn out ones. I know they must insult since they can't win in debates!

I can and have talked bad about the GOPe for hours, but they have never included any racist group in their ranks. They do not embrace the KKK, BLM, or any other flavor of racist scum!

Politically they also officially exclude fascist be they Nazi or Antifa. They also reject communist, monarchist, theocrats, anarchist, etc..

Unfortunately the GOPe welcomes way to much socialism for my tastes!
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
78964 posts
Posted on 8/13/17 at 1:14 pm to
Garbage. But garbage you are entitled to believe in. Anything to avoid admitting Dems are, and always have been, the party of Racial Identity politics.
Posted by tedmarkuson
texas
Member since Feb 2015
2592 posts
Posted on 8/13/17 at 1:14 pm to
this is the electoral map in 1960



here it is in 1968



notice something?

nixon won virtually every state in 1960 that he did in 1968.

george wallace won the southern states that gave kennedy the victory in 1960.

so if nixon had a "southern strategy" it was a faliure.

nixon's three biggest pick-ups in 1968 were missouri, illinois and new jersey...hardly the ole south son.
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
78964 posts
Posted on 8/13/17 at 1:17 pm to
Its Progressive Orthodoxy. They have to have some competing narrative to avoid admitting the truth of who they are.


Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
22424 posts
Posted on 8/13/17 at 1:18 pm to
I am waiting for a Democrat Senator to say that Antifa or BLM can't be part of the Democrat base.

Crickets.....
Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
19713 posts
Posted on 8/13/17 at 1:18 pm to
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Not just White Nationalists but Fascists of any kind
so antifa?
Posted by CoachChappy
Member since May 2013
32594 posts
Posted on 8/13/17 at 1:20 pm to
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So being white and caring about your country is now bad?

Posted by Wolfhound45
Hanging with Chicken in Lurkistan
Member since Nov 2009
120000 posts
Posted on 8/13/17 at 1:22 pm to
quote:

I am waiting for a Democrat Senator to say that Antifa or BLM can't be part of the Democrat base.

Crickets.....
I'll take "Things that Will Never Happen" for $500 Alex.
Posted by SlapahoeTribe
Tiger Nation
Member since Jul 2012
12120 posts
Posted on 8/13/17 at 1:23 pm to
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still have yet to see a definition for what a "white nationalist" actually is.

Anyone who down votes a WhiskeyPapa comment (according to WhiskeyPapa).
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69358 posts
Posted on 8/13/17 at 1:31 pm to
quote:

so if nixon had a "southern strategy" it was a faliure.


Reagan's southern strategy also failed in 1980....

Here is a county map of the 1980 election.


Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 8/13/17 at 1:39 pm to
Can't believe he is turning his back on all 8000 of them

He won't say shite when the left pulls its next stunt
Posted by BrocraticMethod
a dumpster
Member since Sep 2011
2326 posts
Posted on 8/13/17 at 1:47 pm to
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What got him elected was that he appealed to working class people in very specific battleground states.


And it's pretty telling that you didn't mention what he appealed to them with. Sure, his false promises to somehow triumph over free market economics to bring their jobs back was part of it, but so was playing on identity-based grievances.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69358 posts
Posted on 8/13/17 at 1:49 pm to
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And it's pretty telling that you didn't mention what he appealed to them with.
This isn't a valid argument, because if you actually look at a detailed map of where he did best and improved the most over past republicans- it was in areas and counties that have been voting demcratic since the 1970s.

In Wisconsin, for example, trump did HORRIBLE for a republican in the milwaukee suburbs. Republicans usually win it by 35+, he only won it by 25+.
Posted by Pussykat
South Louisiana
Member since Oct 2016
3889 posts
Posted on 8/13/17 at 1:54 pm to
I'm so confused need some definitions:

White nationalist

White supremacist

Alt-Right

Posted by RTRinTampa
Central FL
Member since Jan 2013
5532 posts
Posted on 8/13/17 at 2:00 pm to
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So being white and caring about your country is now bad?


Yes, white-obsession is the latest crazy on the left! Like any of us chose our skin pigmentation. I refuse to be ashamed of my whiteness.

Those that disagree can kiss my arse. Sorry you had fukked up parents and friends that influenced your mental illness.
Posted by Da Blitz
Member since Dec 2016
145 posts
Posted on 8/13/17 at 2:04 pm to
Integrity say no to racism
Posted by airfernando
Member since Oct 2015
15248 posts
Posted on 8/13/17 at 2:09 pm to
need to start by purging the liberal and moderates from the base.
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