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Posted on 1/19/17 at 11:51 pm to imjustafatkid
quote:I'm sure there are, but the article is about a specific school banning it. That was apparently false, and isn't any truer because someone else does it.
There are definitely Teachers who have declared they will not show the inauguration.
quote:My issue is that the article states that an entire school had banned the inauguration, when they appears to be false.
Is your issue with the article that it states Principals made the decisions instead of Teachers?
And beyond that inaccuracy of the article, the journalistic standards to reach that conclusion were terrible (didn't speak with school; based on a Facebook post; interview with one mother, etc.).
And even if we find a teacher who refused to do it, at that school, that doesn't make it any more accurate or better journalism. I mean if the calculus teacher wants them to learn calculus during calculus class, that's not very controversial and quite different than one the article argued.
Posted on 1/19/17 at 11:57 pm to gthog61
quote:Nowhere did I make this argument, and other schools are irrelevant to this story. I don't know why you even thought it was relevant.
You really want to bet there are NO SCHOOLS ANYWHERE banning the showing of the inauguration?
If an article false accuses a person of being a murderer, would you then bring up the fact that there are murderers elsewhere? And one that somehow make the false claim any less false? That's the same type reasoning you're using.
quote:Whatever this means, this is irrelevant.
I wonder what the "Barack Hussein Obama mmmmm mmmmm mmmmm" school is doing
quote:I'm going to be honest, almost all your posts are either nonsensical, irrelevant, and/or just filled with insults. It's terrible, and well below the intellectual quality I would typically associate with your university.
hahahahahahahahahahaha
Posted on 1/20/17 at 12:06 am to Ace Midnight
quote:And I'm not criticizing Fox, except for the fact that they employ such a terrible journalist. I actually expect more from them.
However much Fox is mocked for their "Fair and Balanced" - they're the closest to it - at least on hard news reporting - obviously their slate of commentators are heavily represented by all shades of the right and a handful of centrists or left-leaners.
quote:And while this reveals their hypocrisy, I'm afraid it will unfortunately reveal the other side's as well. In other words, they'll dismiss quality journalism, regardless of its implications, because they didn't do it during Obama's tenure. The inconsistency will deserve criticism, but the dismissal is just as or even more problematic.
so I expect the hard-hitting journalism to be rejuvenated with the quickness.
quote:Look no further than the President-Elect for the same hypocrisy. Prior to this year, he's on record stating that Hillary was a victim (and would make a great president or vice president), but all of a sudden years later his opinion changed. He was either wrong then or he's wrong now; either way, it reveals either terrible and fluid judgement, or he just lies like atypical politician, the ones who live in that swamp.
ike how the press cares about law and order and government accountability when Nixon and Reagan are in office, but not so much when Clinton and Obama are (the ends justify the means to Marxist revolutionaries).
And if you look, talk, and act like those swamp dwellers, then its probably your habitat too. So is he going to really drain his new home?
Posted on 1/20/17 at 12:11 am to buckeye_vol
I'm quite certain he's got a serious Blue Velvet Frank set up right next to his desktop. I'm guessing he's wearing a Walkman with cassette tapes of old hair bands blasting through his ears, filling himself with Grapico and vienna sausages.
Posted on 1/20/17 at 12:14 am to buckeye_vol
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Prior to this year, he's on record stating that Hillary was a victim (and would make a great president or vice president), but all of a sudden years later his opinion changed.
And I don't think this is unfair, per se, but at the very least, he's been doing that on his own dime. As of tomorrow, he's on the clock.
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So is he going to really drain his new home?
The optimist in me believes he will get the job started, for sure. But, that's a big fricking swamp - I think we all can agree on that.
Posted on 1/20/17 at 12:27 am to Ace Midnight
quote:I agree that tomorrow is when it REALLY matters, but I don't think that his own dime absolves him of his hypocrisy. Paying your own fine doesn't mean you didn't commit the crime, but it is better than using others to pay it for you.
And I don't think this is unfair, per se, but at the very least, he's been doing that on his own dime. As of tomorrow, he's on the clock
quote:I can never fault an optimistic approach, and usually I'm an optimist. And I won't fault him for making progress, although institutional inertia is probably bigger than any one person can overcome altogether.
The optimist in me believes he will get the job started, for sure. But, that's a big fricking swamp - I think we all can agree on that.
That being said, one of my biggest issues with Trump is that he has a history of views, and more importantly, actions that are fundamentally counter to his rhetoric. He proudly ensured that swamp stayed strong for decades, because it benefited him (can't necessarily blame him); now he's going to drain that very beneficial swamp because of some never-before-seen altruism? I just don't buy it, but hopefully I'm wrong.
Posted on 1/20/17 at 12:31 am to JuiceTerry
quote:This is going to sound terrible, especially as a person who loves film: Besides Twin Peaks, I can't ever remember watching anything by David Lynch. Eraserhead creeped me out when I was younger and have refrained from his films ever since.
I'm quite certain he's got a serious Blue Velvet Frank set up right next to his desktop. I'm guessing he's wearing a Walkman with cassette tapes of old hair bands blasting through his ears, filling himself with Grapico and vienna sausages.
Posted on 1/20/17 at 12:36 am to 31TIGERS
quote:You know as terrible as the post is, I dislike the Patriots so much that a Steelers victory wouldn't be as terrible as usual.
STEEL CURTAIN!!
This post was edited on 1/20/17 at 12:51 am
Posted on 1/20/17 at 2:48 am to buckeye_vol
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He does not provide a comment from the school/district
I've never heard the parents complaining saying it was a district/school policy. Personal friend of mine from the Ft Worth area was complaining that the teacher told the kids that she personally didn't want to see Trump nominated, so they wouldn't watch it. I think that has since been reversed
And that's exactly what the supt was saying in your letter, some kids will see it, some wont
So Snopes rates your OP as MOSTLY FALSE. Good job, you posted fake news, about fake news.
Posted on 1/20/17 at 7:35 am to RobbBobb
quote:Well then you didn't read the story or even the title which is "Seriously? Schools reportedly to black out Trump Inauguration." Plus there are all these snippets from the article.
I've never heard the parents complaining saying it was a district/school policy.
quote:
Students at Independence High School in Williamson County, Tennessee, will not be allowed to watch President-elect Donald Trump’s inauguration during class on Friday, according to one student and her mother.
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Teachers are banned to show it.
quote:It's the entire basis of the article, and you've never heard of that before?
She told me that Independence High School is going to focus on learning and moving forward and staying on curriculum and they would not be stopping class for the inauguration
quote:Which is in response to the article.
And that's exactly what the supt was saying in your letter, some kids will see it, some wont
quote:The fact that you would state this when clearly did not even read the article says a lot about you.
So Snopes rates your OP as MOSTLY FALSE. Good job, you posted fake news, about fake news.
Posted on 1/20/17 at 8:35 am to buckeye_vol
And another reason the article is terrible. Here is the direct quote from the the student who Starnes uses (with her mother) as a primary source:
quote:The 2013 Inauguration fell on MLK day, and public schools have a day off. So Starnes freely accepted and posted this when a 30 second search would show that this was not possible.
We watched the last 2 presidential inaugurations in school.”
Posted on 1/20/17 at 11:15 am to buckeye_vol
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I've never heard the parents complaining saying it was a district/school policy.
quote:
Well then you didn't read the story
See, you didn't even get the reference to Fake News. What the parents were saying, and what was reported, was not the same
You even linked a letter that confirmed EXACTLY WHAT I SAID: some classes will see it, others wont. Teachers were making decisions based on their personal views
Posted on 1/20/17 at 4:18 pm to RobbBobb
quote:But the "fake news" was that all teachers were banned from showing it, even if they wanted to and even it was actually relevant to their course (e.g., American History).
You even linked a letter that confirmed EXACTLY WHAT I SAID: some classes will see it, others wont. Teachers were making decisions based on their personal views
What you said above is correct, but that's irrelevant to the discussion about an article that was accepted as fact, despite the clearly poor journalism.
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