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Sandy Hook Commission Draft: Homeschoolers are evil

Posted on 10/7/14 at 12:39 pm
Posted by TN Bhoy
San Antonio, TX
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Posted on 10/7/14 at 12:39 pm
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HARTFORD -- Parents who home-school children with significant emotional, social or behavioral problems would have to file progress reports prepared by special education program teams, under a proposal being considered by the governor's Sandy Hook Advisory Commission.

Commission members acknowledged Tuesday that the proposal, contained in a tentative section of the panel's final report, could be controversial and prompt opposition from parents of home-schooled children across the state.

But the commission, which is preparing its final report to Gov. Dannel P. Malloy, said tighter scrutiny of home-schoolers may be needed to prevent an incident such as the December 2012 slaughter of 20 first-graders and six adults at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown. The murders were carried out by Adam Lanza, a disturbed 20-year-old who had been home-schooled by his mother, Nancy Lanza, whom he also shot to death on the morning of his murder spree.

The draft proposal was contained in a summary prepared for the 16-member commission of educators, local and state officials and behavioral experts and discussed by University of Connecticut Professor Susan Schmeiser.

Under the proposal, home-schooled children with behavioral and emotional disabilities would have to have individualized education plans approved by the special education director of the local public school district. Allowing for the continued home-schooling of such children would be predicated on the individualized plans and "adequate progress" documented in mandatory annual reports.




And...a scary line from one of the writers of the draft:


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University of Connecticut law professor Susan R. Schmeiser said, “We need a holistic approach that will follow children from birth to adulthood, identifying risk factors, reinforcing protective factors, and promoting positive development throughout.”


Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
58125 posts
Posted on 10/7/14 at 12:39 pm to
What a stupid count.
Posted by Alahunter
Member since Jan 2008
90738 posts
Posted on 10/7/14 at 12:42 pm to
Sounds quite... progressive.
Posted by Scoop
RIP Scoop
Member since Sep 2005
44583 posts
Posted on 10/7/14 at 12:46 pm to
Big Brother type stuff from the left.

Who would have guessed it?

Keep following each sheep down the chute, folks. Winderful things are at the end of it.
Posted by KCT
Psalm 23:5
Member since Feb 2010
38911 posts
Posted on 10/7/14 at 12:47 pm to
Home schoolers are overwhelmingly white, conservative, and Christian.


Of course they're evil.
Posted by UncleFestersLegs
Member since Nov 2010
10826 posts
Posted on 10/7/14 at 12:54 pm to
Some facts missing from your article
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Schwartz admitted that the commission didn’t have access to Lanza’s school files and medical records. But he maintained that those records would support the commission’s proposals.

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But while Lanza’s abnormal social and emotional development surely contributed to his crime, homeschooling neither exacerbated his mental illness nor obscured it from local education officials.

Lanza attended traditional public schools up to the eighth grade. From the beginning, everyone knew he was different. As Andrew Solomon detailed earlier this year in The New Yorker, Lanza suffered from sensory issues and received speech and occupational therapy beginning in kindergarten. At every juncture of his early life, he was analyzed and agitated over by psychologists, counselors, behaviorists, and other state-credentialed educators.

Yet Lanza’s troubles deepened, and his anti-social behavior grew worse. Peter and Nancy Lanza were as desperate to help their son find psychological peace as they were to identify a school environment in which he could thrive.

At 13, he was sent to a private psychologist, who diagnosed Asperger’s Syndrome. At 14, he underwent a psychiatric assessment at the Yale University Child Study Center, where obsessive-compulsive disorder was added to his growing list of personality disorders.

The Lanzas considered moving 50 miles away, to a town with a school district known for excellence in special education. They briefly enrolled him in a Catholic school.

In the end, according to Solomon, it was Lanza’s psychologist who recommended homeschooling. His parents accepted the idea as a last resort for a child whom local medical and education professionals couldn’t seem to help.
Posted by SpidermanTUba
my house
Member since May 2004
36128 posts
Posted on 10/7/14 at 12:57 pm to
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HARTFORD -- Parents who home-school children with significant emotional, social or behavioral problems would have to file progress reports prepared by special education program teams, under a proposal being considered by the governor's Sandy Hook Advisory Commission.


This is absurd. Mentally handicapped children don't have a right to an education!

Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35236 posts
Posted on 10/7/14 at 12:58 pm to
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Home schoolers are overwhelmingly white, conservative, and Christian. Of course they're evil.


Although there is nothing inherently wrong with home-schooling, there are some legitimate concerns with it. Your insistence on linking everything to some hyperbolic quasi-conspiracy is tiresome and detracts from the issue at hand. It's no different from the irrational DU posters.
Posted by UncleFestersLegs
Member since Nov 2010
10826 posts
Posted on 10/7/14 at 1:00 pm to
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This is absurd. Mentally handicapped children don't have a right to an education!

weak troll
Posted by UncleFestersLegs
Member since Nov 2010
10826 posts
Posted on 10/7/14 at 1:01 pm to
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there are some legitimate concerns with it.

What business is it of yours how I raise my child? GFY
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35236 posts
Posted on 10/7/14 at 1:06 pm to
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What business is it of yours how I raise my child? GFY


Seriously?

I'm not telling you how to raise your child, I'm saying there are some concerns with home-schooling. Just like there are some concerns with public education. I think all issues should be open for discussions about the positives and negatives. Your response is really troubling.
This post was edited on 10/7/14 at 1:07 pm
Posted by SpidermanTUba
my house
Member since May 2004
36128 posts
Posted on 10/7/14 at 1:06 pm to
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What business is it of yours how I raise my child?


I guess as long as you never let him leave the house it doesn't matter to the rest of us.
Posted by LaFlyer
Member since Oct 2012
1043 posts
Posted on 10/7/14 at 1:08 pm to
[quote]buckeye_vol
. Although there is nothing inherently wrong with home-schooling, there are some legitimate concerns with it.

That's your opinion. I would say that parents who home school children are involved and care more than someone who drops their kid off for a free lunch and daycare that public schools are.

It is a parents right to make choices for their child. Butt out
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35236 posts
Posted on 10/7/14 at 1:14 pm to
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That's your opinion. I would say that parents who home school children are involved and care more than someone who drops their kid off for a free lunch and daycare that public schools are. It is a parents right to make choices for their child. Butt out


And I don't disagree with that. again I'm not telling anybody what they should do, but that doesn't mean there aren't concerns. For example, while in grad school a colleague worked with a very well-meaning home-schooling family whose 6th grade child's reading skills were more consistent with 1st grade. They had no idea he was that far behind. So my concern is that maybe there were curriculum issues, lack on resources, or they were unprepared to provide the instruction. Discussing ways to work through these issues is important to me.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72080 posts
Posted on 10/7/14 at 1:17 pm to
I don't know about evil, but they are definitely weird.
Posted by UncleFestersLegs
Member since Nov 2010
10826 posts
Posted on 10/7/14 at 1:20 pm to
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Your response is really troubling.

Seriously? IDGAF. It's none of your business.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72080 posts
Posted on 10/7/14 at 1:21 pm to
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This is absurd. Mentally handicapped children don't have a right to an education!
That isn't what they are saying at all, Tuba. Homeschool children are receiving an education already. They just want to bring them under government control/observation, something that I don't support.

I'm not sure how you misinterpreted that paragraph. It seemed extremely straightforward.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35236 posts
Posted on 10/7/14 at 1:22 pm to
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Seriously? IDGAF. It's none of your business


So saying that there are legitimate concerns is the same as telling you what to do? Does that sound rational whatsoever?
Posted by UncleFestersLegs
Member since Nov 2010
10826 posts
Posted on 10/7/14 at 1:23 pm to
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I guess as long as you never let him leave the house it doesn't matter to the rest of us.

"Progressives to subject all home-schooled children to house arrest."
Posted by Paluka
One State Over
Member since Dec 2010
10763 posts
Posted on 10/7/14 at 1:24 pm to
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I would say that parents who home school children are involved and care more than someone who drops their kid off for a free lunch and daycare that public schools are. It is a parents right to make choices for their child.


I support homeschooling kids. When there are larger home school organizations and the parents are doing this for the benefit of their child (better education, safety, etc.) I have no problem with it at all. There's plenty of collaboration and socialization. It's better than even some of the best public schools.

Unfortunately, the case of Adam Lanza was a case of "we give up so let's homeschool him." I've seen this happen many times. Parent is overwhelmed and cannot control the kid to even teach him. The kid feels worse. The best option for kid like him is total removal from the home. Place him in a military boarding school or a school for emotiionally disturbed kids. They get their education and are taught how to handle life.They are surrounded by experts in dealing with such behavior and they do get better.
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