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Resource- based economy versus the Free Market

Posted on 3/28/17 at 12:51 am
Posted by DumbCollegeKid
Steens,Ms
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 3/28/17 at 12:51 am
I searched to see if this had been discussed on here, but did not find a thread. For those of you that are familiar with the Venus Project, how do you feel it relates to human nature? What level of social conditioning are you comfortable with?
Posted by Stuckinthe90s
Dallas, TX
Member since Apr 2013
2576 posts
Posted on 3/28/17 at 1:12 am to
yeah so I checked out project venus, that is straight communism. If you don't know how communism ends. Please wiki the revolutions of 1989.

The thing that I found most poignant about Project Venus was that is mention utilizing technology to solve all our problems. Communism has been proven to slow innovation to a crawl, because problems are not actually solved in communism by innovating, instead they are solved by dumping resources, mainly labor, at the problem. Project Venus would suggest that we are at the end point of our technological advancements and should 'rest on our laurels' so they say.

Edit: I do think that it is always a good thought experiment to think of how we can improve and disrupt our current way of life. Unfortunately Project Venus is just the same book with a different title.

As to a true resource based economy, IDK, I have a feeling that project venus isn't doing that term justice. If we are a service based economy, I would think a resource based economy would be one that produces/exports mainly resources as a large % of their GDP.

This post was edited on 3/28/17 at 1:17 am
Posted by DumbCollegeKid
Steens,Ms
Member since Apr 2013
1620 posts
Posted on 3/28/17 at 1:21 am to
I have my own misgivings about the Venus Projects findings in human nature. I am wary of central planning. Still, I find their assertion that competition is conditioned compelling, even if I don't agree with it. How much of our economy and social structure is inevitable, do you think?
Posted by Stuckinthe90s
Dallas, TX
Member since Apr 2013
2576 posts
Posted on 3/28/17 at 9:13 am to
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Still, I find their assertion that competition is conditioned compelling, even if I don't agree with it. How much of our economy and social structure is inevitable, do you think?


That is a great question. I personally think that our economy and social structures to a large part are inevitable because they are based on survival, or maybe one can argue, maslow's hierarchy of needs. Now as science and technology advance our social structures and economy will evolve with our progression, but to have such a huge radical shift like project venus is talking about would require amazing advancements in robotics, automation, and A.I as well as mass implementation of all these things into our daily lives.


My argument against the assertion that competition is conditioned is that we see it not just in our own economy, but in hundreds of economies throughout the world. We can see which ones flourish and which ones don't. Additionally we have thousands of cultures so we can see which ones create advancements in technologies, science, the arts, etc. We also see it in the wild, some animals cooperate in small groups which compete against each other for food. But we also see large amounts of competition within those groups too, mating, pecking order, food, etc.
This post was edited on 3/28/17 at 9:15 am
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