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Repubs already screwing up/bowing down (Post Election)

Posted on 12/2/14 at 5:59 pm
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
80095 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 5:59 pm
Stories coming out of both houses...

Republicans gonna Republican

Exactly why they will never get my vote

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Senate Republicans had no appetite for discussing how to thwart President Obama’s executive orders on immigration during the conference’s weekly lunch, according to a source familiar with the meeting.

Senator Mike Lee (R., Utah) and Senator David Vitter (R., La.) tried to broach the topic, but were ignored.

“At different times, Lee and Vitter stood up and tried to begin a discussion about what the plan was and asked leadership about what their strategy was to deal with the spending bill and respond to Obama executive amnesty, and the reply was always an effort to try to change the subject to the ozone rule from the EPA or some other issue, and it was just bizarre,” the source said.


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Senator Jeff Sessions (R., Ala.) suggested that House Republicans are on the verge of breaking their campaign promise to fight President Obama’s administrative amnesty, judging by the legislative text currently being circulated.

Sessions said that the proposed language “fails to meet [the] test” established by Republican National Committee chairman Reince Priebus, who promised earlier this year that the GOP would do everything possible to thwart Obama’s executive orders.

“The executive amnesty language is substantially weaker than the language the House adopted this summer, and does not reject the central tenets of the President’s plan: work permits, Social Security and Medicare to 5 million illegal immigrants — reducing wages, jobs and benefits for Americans,” Sessions said in the statement expressing his dissatisfaction with the results of a House Republican conference meeting today.

In the meeting, “the lawmakers began coalescing around a two-part plan that would allow a symbolic vote to show their frustration with President Obama’s executive action on immigration, before funding the government ahead of a Dec. 11 deadline,” according to the New York Times.


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Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
57835 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 6:12 pm to
I find this shocking.





















































Ok. I'm not shocked.
Posted by Scoop
RIP Scoop
Member since Sep 2005
44583 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 6:14 pm to
The Republicans are already getting pushed around and shouted down. It didn't take long at all for the Dems to shake off the election and pretend it never happened.
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
80095 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 6:15 pm to
quote:

The Republicans are already getting pushed around and shouted down. It didn't take long at all for the Dems to shake off the election and pretend it never happened.


Thanks gutless arse Boner and McConnel.... Terrible leadership from the Republicans. They deserve everything they get.
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
80178 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 6:17 pm to
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work permits, Social Security and Medicare to 5 million illegal immigrants — reducing wages, jobs and benefits for Americans,


I don't understand part of this argument... If Jose now has to go legit and be in the system and pay his taxes, how can he work for a cash wage below the minimum wage?

I thought the argument always was the illegals would do the same job for 1/2 the price in cash? Doesn't making them all go legit eliminate that?

What am I missing?
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118666 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 6:17 pm to
quote:

would allow a symbolic vote to show their frustration with President Obama’s executive action on immigration,




The GOP is full of big government pussies.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118666 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 6:28 pm to
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What am I missing?


You're not missing anything. I've made this argument before. The only illegal immigrants in the "shadows" that might go legit are the people that want to benefit from the US welfare safety net.

ETA: what illegals really want is deportations to stop and continue to work the black market cash system.
This post was edited on 12/2/14 at 6:30 pm
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
48894 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 6:30 pm to
Repubs are looking as bad as dems
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89480 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 6:31 pm to
quote:

The only illegal immigrants in the "shadows" that might go legit are the people that want to benefit from the US welfare safety net.



quote:

what illegals really want is deportations to stop and continue to work the black market cash system.

Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118666 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 6:32 pm to
quote:

Repubs are looking as bad as dems



Not even close. A least the dems are willing to stand on principle, albeit f'd up principles. The Republicans have a backbone of a slinky.
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
80178 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 6:33 pm to
I still think the Republicans are still having an identity crisis of who they are and what they want to stand for. It started with the arrival of the Tea Party, but I don't think we've seen a definitive resolution yet.

I think this upcoming presidential primary may get brutal.

This post was edited on 12/2/14 at 6:34 pm
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
48894 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 6:33 pm to
I sort of agree
Posted by constant cough
Lafayette
Member since Jun 2007
44788 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 6:36 pm to
That's why I never got excited about Republicans winning back the Senate.

Hell Obama is probably happy they won. He already knows he can roll right over McConnell and Boehner only now he doesn't have to deal with Nancy and Harry as much.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40090 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 6:41 pm to
Not surprising the republicans are going to bend over faster than paige on date night











































actually I take that back. Even paige doesn't give it up that easy
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118666 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 6:41 pm to
quote:

I still think the Republicans are still having an identity crisis of who they are and what they want to stand for. It started with the arrival of the Tea Party, but I don't think we've seen a definitive resolution yet.

I think this upcoming presidential primary may get brutal.



There is huge division within the GOP on the topics of NSA/Patriot Act/Privacy Rights, foreign policy and immigration, IMO. The division can be more generalized by the big government corporatist and the "small government" Tea Party libertarian types, IMO.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118666 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 6:42 pm to
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
80178 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 6:43 pm to
I agree. Throw in the social conservatives and Religious Right, and it's just a whole mess of (what I see as) incompatible interests and beliefs.

Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
105379 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 7:34 pm to
Frick em all and I mean that.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123779 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 7:35 pm to
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Senator Jeff Sessions (R., Ala.) suggested that
"F" Jeff Sessions! He is Alabama trailer trash. Nothing more. Nothing less. He is Bull Connor w/o the firehoses. He's a prejudiced SOB, and a thorough GOP embarrassment. As much as if David Duke were elected to the Senate.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118666 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 7:38 pm to
quote:

"F" Jeff Sessions! He is Alabama trailer trash. Nothing more. Nothing less. He is Bull Connor w/o the firehoses. He's a prejudiced SOB, and a thorough GOP embarrassment. As much as if David Duke were elected to the Senate.



You have any examples of Sessions' David-Dukeness?
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