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Report: Justice Kennedy May Announce Retirement From Supreme Court

Posted on 6/26/17 at 8:52 am
Posted by GumboPot
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Posted on 6/26/17 at 8:52 am
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White House sources think Justice Anthony Kennedy might announce his retirement from the Supreme Court Monday, Mike Allen reports.

The announcement would give President Trump the opportunity to replace Kennedy — who leans right but serves as the ideological center of the court — with a more conservative justice. A second Trump appointment of a justice along the ideological lines of Neil Gorsuch would put the balance of the court at five conservative justices to four liberal justices.

“Replacing Kennedy would be even more historic and consequential: a momentous chance to edge the Court right, since Kennedy is the center of the Court — the one most willing to listen to both sides,” Allen writes in his politics newsletter. “On a controversial case, both sides pitch to him. It’s been called ‘Kennedy’s Court.'”

Kennedy has sat on the court nearly 30 years, making him the longest serving of the current justices.


What if this leads to the overturning of RvW in 2 to 3 years? The melt would be epic.
Posted by Colonel Flagg
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 6/26/17 at 8:53 am to
Liberals will try to expand the court when they get power if things get stacked against them.
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 6/26/17 at 8:54 am to
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What if this leads to the overturning of RvW in 2 to 3 years?


Do you have an argument for why Roe v. Wade is unconstitutional? Or is it an issue you want the Supreme Court to solve through politics?
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 6/26/17 at 8:54 am to
If it happens, it happens. No point getting all wee-weed up for nothing
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 6/26/17 at 8:56 am to
I don't think he leaves knowing that democRats will have no say in the replacement.

Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 6/26/17 at 8:57 am to
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Do you have an argument for why Roe v. Wade is unconstitutional?


Abortion is not specified in the constitution so it's left to the states?
Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
27482 posts
Posted on 6/26/17 at 8:59 am to
I'll bet he stays on just because he's frustrated with people hanging around like vultures talking about him stepping down.

It's the same token that if republicans weren't literally begging for Ginsberg to die (myself included) she probably wouldn't be fighting so hard to stay alive and would have just died by now.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 6/26/17 at 9:00 am to
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Deplorable Jim @jmerrick82yaho1

Deplorable Jim Retweeted Trump USA
It would be a great way for Kennedy to exit by restoring the power of the executive branch upholding the travel ban. #TravelBan @POTUS #MAGA



crosses fingers the left and MSM would melt down

But as I posted on SCOTUSblog thread--- Kennedy hired his people.
Posted by VoxDawg
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Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 6/26/17 at 9:00 am to
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Abortion is not specified in the constitution so it's left to the states?


Thank you. Why is that so difficult for folks to wrap their brains around? The powers of the federal government should begin and end at defending our borders, ratifying treaties/declaring war, printing money, levying taxes (unfortunately), and running the post office. That's really about it.
Posted by Wtodd
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Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 6/26/17 at 9:01 am to
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Definitive AF
Posted by Seldom Seen
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Posted on 6/26/17 at 9:02 am to
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 6/26/17 at 9:02 am to
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What if this leads to the overturning of RvW in 2 to 3 years?

Not going to happen and shouldn't happen. RvW was grounded in terms of Constitutional Freedoms and I would hate to see Justices stoop to bending arguments around for political purposes. For the same exact reason that I don't want them bending around the First, Second and Fourth, they shouldn't mess with well-grounded reasoning.
Posted by Pax Regis
Alabama
Member since Sep 2007
12926 posts
Posted on 6/26/17 at 9:03 am to
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Do you have an argument for why Roe v. Wade is unconstitutional?


Murder is bad? There is no constitutional right to murder someone for your own convenience?
Posted by Pax Regis
Alabama
Member since Sep 2007
12926 posts
Posted on 6/26/17 at 9:05 am to
Roe v. Wade was a travesty of constitutional jurisprudence. Just because it is over 40 years old does not make it less of a travesty. It took a mind bending level of judicial sleight of hand to make that happen.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 6/26/17 at 9:07 am to
i don't think Roe gets overturned with a solid 5-4 court, but i will agree with this

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It took a mind bending level of judicial sleight of hand to make that happen.


THAT has always been the biggest issue with Roe
Posted by the808bass
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Member since Oct 2012
111498 posts
Posted on 6/26/17 at 9:11 am to
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RvW was grounded in terms of Constitutional Freedoms


Emanating from the penumbra, right?

AKA "pulled from our arse."
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98480 posts
Posted on 6/26/17 at 9:13 am to
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Do you have an argument for why Roe v. Wade is unconstitutional?


Because it was. Even its most aredent defenders acknowledge that it was a poorly "reasoned" decision that was on very shaky legal grounds.

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Or is it an issue you want the Supreme Court to solve through politics?


What the frick do you think Roe was? Abortion was already being legalized at the state level and had the SC stayed out of it, it would never have become the lightning rod it is today.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 6/26/17 at 9:16 am to
I wish you wouldn't have made this thread. Don't want to jinx it.
Posted by weagle99
Member since Nov 2011
35893 posts
Posted on 6/26/17 at 9:16 am to
I don't think Kennedy is going anywhere.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118680 posts
Posted on 6/26/17 at 9:17 am to
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Not going to happen and shouldn't happen. RvW was grounded in terms of Constitutional Freedoms and I would hate to see Justices stoop to bending arguments around for political purposes. For the same exact reason that I don't want them bending around the First, Second and Fourth, they shouldn't mess with well-grounded reasoning.


RvW reasoning could be characterized as "bending". The constitution is a contract between states that outlines the extent of the federal government's authority. Everything else, that is everything not authorized by the states in the constitution is left up to the states. Abortion is not mentioned in the constitution unless you "bend" the arguments to make it fit.
This post was edited on 6/26/17 at 9:19 am
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