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Report: Maintenance worker warned hotel about the Las Vegas shooter
Posted on 10/11/17 at 11:35 pm
Posted on 10/11/17 at 11:35 pm
He was a witness to the security guard getting shot.
After getting shot, the guard told the maintenance worker to dive for cover. As bullets were ripping down the hallway, the worker screamed into his walkie talkie that a shooting was in progress on the 32nd floor. The Mandalay Hotel knew there was an incident in progress within seconds of the first shot ringing out - a full six minutes before Paddock set his sites on the crowd down below.
So what the hell happened? Why didn't the 911 call go out sooner?
CBS article/video
After getting shot, the guard told the maintenance worker to dive for cover. As bullets were ripping down the hallway, the worker screamed into his walkie talkie that a shooting was in progress on the 32nd floor. The Mandalay Hotel knew there was an incident in progress within seconds of the first shot ringing out - a full six minutes before Paddock set his sites on the crowd down below.
So what the hell happened? Why didn't the 911 call go out sooner?
CBS article/video
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Posted on 10/11/17 at 11:55 pm to RollTide1987
well that's insane. and fishy. why didn't the maintenance worker call 911?
Posted on 10/11/17 at 11:57 pm to bmy
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well that's insane. and fishy. why didn't the maintenance worker call 911?
I am going to guess that they have a no cell phone policy. But, really that is just a guess and walkie talkie would be the fastest thing to alert others to call.
Posted on 10/12/17 at 3:35 am to RollTide1987
Bullets flying, thousands scattering and people being shot at multiple locations.
Everyone has a plan on how to beat me. Until I hit them - Mike Tyson
Everyone has a plan on how to beat me. Until I hit them - Mike Tyson
Posted on 10/12/17 at 6:32 am to Abadeebadaba
I mean if I had a radio that connected to a central dispatch, and someone started shooting at me, I am going to quickly say something to dispatch and focus on staying safe.
If this guy had a cellphone (big assumption for maintenance guys), that takes more time than just pressing the button on your radio.
If this guy had a cellphone (big assumption for maintenance guys), that takes more time than just pressing the button on your radio.
Posted on 10/12/17 at 6:36 am to RollTide1987
Is it confirmed they actually saw Paddock?
Or did "he" shoot through the door based on the cameras?
Or did "he" shoot through the door based on the cameras?
Posted on 10/12/17 at 6:37 am to RollTide1987
Regardless of what happened, which I doubt we will ever really know, the FBI has done an absolutely abysmal job at communicating with the public and this will be used as a case study in how not to handle post-incident management.
If it isn't incompetence then one has to give more credence to the fact that the FBI is covering up something. When you have the Special Agent in Charge tell the public the most powerful law enforcement entity in the world is going to put a billboard up to generate leads, you know something is wrong.
If it isn't incompetence then one has to give more credence to the fact that the FBI is covering up something. When you have the Special Agent in Charge tell the public the most powerful law enforcement entity in the world is going to put a billboard up to generate leads, you know something is wrong.
Posted on 10/12/17 at 6:39 am to IceTiger
The way I read this story the maintenance guy didn't see Paddock. He heard the shots ten saw Campos.
Campos hasn't said anything, so what he did or did not see is still unknown. This actually goes a decent ways toward corroborating the details of the case.
MGM is clenching its butthole about this delay. Their spokeswoman declined to comment. Also another good reason why MGM might want to keep reporters away from Campos if he doesn't want to talk.
Campos hasn't said anything, so what he did or did not see is still unknown. This actually goes a decent ways toward corroborating the details of the case.
MGM is clenching its butthole about this delay. Their spokeswoman declined to comment. Also another good reason why MGM might want to keep reporters away from Campos if he doesn't want to talk.
Posted on 10/12/17 at 6:42 am to 10MTNTiger
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If it isn't incompetence then one has to give more credence to the fact that the FBI is covering up something
My sentiment from the get-go...the public either knew more than they should early on or they just suck...
I'm inclined to believe they are covering up, which heads in the direction of the gun-running op or other strangeness...
Strange that he would be the purchaser of the weapons if that were the case, though (fbi would supply)...unless he was not a contractor of the FBI, which means he could be CIA or really selling to someone.
Posted on 10/12/17 at 6:46 am to IceTiger
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I'm inclined to believe they are covering up, which heads in the direction of the gun-running op or other strangeness...
Is there any actual coherent narrative behind this theory? Is there actually a single bit of positive evidence of the theory other than "strangeness" about the official story?
Posted on 10/12/17 at 6:56 am to CorporateTiger
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Is there any actual coherent narrative behind this theory? Is there actually a single bit of positive evidence of the theory other than "strangeness" about the official story?
Not much except...
ISIS claimed the attack, which may or may not mean gun running
ISIS said they would get Vegas, which adds somewhat to the veracity (not much)
The Anon post the following night about it being an ISIS deal gone bad, that assumes he was working for the FBI...this is the post that said the Sheriff will hint at something, and he said the following day he was compromised
The deletion of federal internet files with his name on it...including CIA ties to his aircraft
No regular internet presence (not uncommon for a 60-something)
His travel record is extensive out of country to places where nefarious activity happens (Clark AFB PI area)
His GF was put on HS travel watch
None of it was hard, but leads me to weigh some credit to some craziness...
There was even some internet chatter about selling to ANTIFA...which would get to a FBI vs CIA thing
Posted on 10/12/17 at 7:04 am to IceTiger
On the other hand is the psychotropic drug angle...
I don't want to scream MKULTRA, but with those "behind the curtains" erasing of his records combined with these drugs?
CIA does this.
We know Mossad uses these techniques and Israel has access to the top floors of that building...
It's not beyond the realm of possibility that he was a tool.
Why would anyone prescribe this stuff...and investigating it is nearly impossible due to d/p. Unless the doc wants to talk...i would start there if Danley's testimony holds any water (which might be none)
I don't want to scream MKULTRA, but with those "behind the curtains" erasing of his records combined with these drugs?
CIA does this.
We know Mossad uses these techniques and Israel has access to the top floors of that building...
It's not beyond the realm of possibility that he was a tool.
Why would anyone prescribe this stuff...and investigating it is nearly impossible due to d/p. Unless the doc wants to talk...i would start there if Danley's testimony holds any water (which might be none)
Posted on 10/12/17 at 7:13 am to CorporateTiger
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If this guy had a cellphone (big assumption for maintenance guys
Holy shite. That bubble you live in.
Yikes
Posted on 10/12/17 at 7:14 am to roadGator
The bubble of employers not letting maintenance people carry their cellphones? Not really a bubble.
Posted on 10/12/17 at 7:24 am to CorporateTiger
I see. I thought you meant maintenance workers wouldn't own them. My apologies in this instance.
Posted on 10/12/17 at 7:25 am to roadGator
Posted on 10/12/17 at 7:37 am to CorporateTiger
quote:Indeed
MGM is clenching its butthole about this delay. Their spokeswoman declined to comment. Also another good reason why MGM might want to keep reporters away from Campos if he doesn't want to talk.
Posted on 10/12/17 at 7:43 am to bmy
quote:Because he couldn't find the eleven button on his smartphone.....
why didn't the maintenance worker call 911?
Posted on 10/12/17 at 8:20 am to LSURussian
Maybe - just maybe - the maintenance worker is an illegal immigrant who speaks no English and definitely didn't want to get caught up in this debacle. Deportation at the very least - possibly wrongly tied into a conspiracy web??
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