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Rand Paul: We should repeal Obamacare like Republicans promised, not just “fix” it

Posted on 6/11/17 at 11:49 am
Posted by Rakim
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Posted on 6/11/17 at 11:49 am
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Sen. Rand Paul, Rare Contributor

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Just when you think Republicans might move away from the bad ideas that are Obamacare-lite, stories are cropping up about the GOP looking at resurrecting or even expanding Obamacare’s Cadillac tax (In fact, it is already a part of Obamacare that is kept in the Paul Ryan plan).

Why? Primarily because it brings in revenue that the GOP wants to use to keep another Obamacare retread—federal subsidies for health insurance.

Proponents of taxing what they consider “excessive” insurance somehow believe they know better than you do how much insurance you need. Curiously, these same people would likely not be so presumptuous as to assert that consumers are spending too much on iPads, but when it comes to healthcare, all respect for consumer choice or free markets seems to evaporate.

I remember in the good old days when Republicans were not in favor of new taxes or new subsidies or dictates on how much insurance a person should buy. But that was a long time ago when the Tea Party stoked the nation’s consciousness, and the GOP rose to capture all three branches of government.


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How much Obamacare does the House bill keep? Well, if you add up the subsidies of Obamacare over a six-year period (2020-2026), you spend $624 billion. If you add up the Republican plan’s subsidies over the same period, you spend $588 billion. So, the GOP plan keeps over ninety percent of the Obamacare subsidies.

No wonder many conservatives are disappointed.


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That’s exactly what association buying plans do. We need to immediately legalize nationwide buying groups to allow people to pool together to get cheaper insurance and better terms. Buying groups would make the consumer king again and put the big insurance companies on notice that the taxpayer will no longer be their patsy.

We should immediately dispel any idea of subsidizing the purchase of insurance. Not one penny of taxpayer dollars should go to insurance companies. These same companies earn $15 billion a year in profit. Why, in heaven’s name, would we subsidize

I’ve spoken to President Trump about legalizing nationwide buying groups. Our legal counsel believes that current law allows the Secretary of Labor to do this without new laws.

So, instead of letting the unelected swamp at CBO skewer any legislation to alter Obamacare, President Trump could simply, on his own, legalize buying groups that have the potential to offer inexpensive insurance to the 20 million individuals that Obamacare failed to insure.

I imagine President Trump surrounded by already existing associations, such as the Chamber, the National Federation of Independent Business, and the American Farm Bureau, announcing that he is legalizing nationwide buying groups—now that’s a concept ALL Republicans could rally around.


The Senate Bill is dead if we subsidize insurance profits. Rands completely against this. Graham has already stated Rands is "irretrievable" so now the Senate is down to 51
Posted by Seldom Seen
Member since Feb 2016
40254 posts
Posted on 6/11/17 at 11:50 am to
Damnit right! Repealing it is fixing it.
Posted by Texas Weazel
Louisiana is a shithole
Member since Oct 2016
8541 posts
Posted on 6/11/17 at 11:50 am to
Rand Paul should have been the nominee. Too bad Americans are too stupid and are easily distracted by political fireworks.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65114 posts
Posted on 6/11/17 at 11:52 am to
This is why I voted for him in the primaries.
Posted by ehidal1
Chief Boot Knocka
Member since Dec 2007
37136 posts
Posted on 6/11/17 at 11:55 am to
Rand

Posted by Esquire
Chiraq
Member since Apr 2014
11640 posts
Posted on 6/11/17 at 11:57 am to
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Rand Paul should have been the nominee. Too bad Americans are too stupid and are easily distracted by political fireworks.


Paul made the mistake of coming prepared with plans and experience instead of a cool catchphrase.
Posted by SuperSaint
Sorting Out OT BS Since '2007'
Member since Sep 2007
140462 posts
Posted on 6/11/17 at 11:58 am to
#Rand2020



Get back on the train fellas
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
40868 posts
Posted on 6/11/17 at 12:00 pm to
Instead we'll get a shite sandwich, and Trump will go hold rallies for it and his sheep will praise him for it.
Posted by Bigtime92
Solsbury Hill
Member since Jan 2017
3688 posts
Posted on 6/11/17 at 1:31 pm to
He's right. There is no fixing it.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
21898 posts
Posted on 6/11/17 at 1:36 pm to
Rand will vote for AHCA if it comes to the floor.
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
29169 posts
Posted on 6/11/17 at 1:39 pm to
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Rand Paul should have been the nominee. Too bad Americans are too stupid and are easily distracted by political fireworks.



Agreed, Rand would have been the best choice out of any of the candidates from either party. Trump wasn't elected because of his policies but rather as a frick you to the government in general imo. It felt good but realistically Rand would have been a much better choice.
Posted by SoulGlo
Shinin' Through
Member since Dec 2011
17248 posts
Posted on 6/11/17 at 1:40 pm to
Rand
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 6/11/17 at 1:42 pm to
Well unfortunately you have to run a capable campaign to win

And the republicans are working on a super secret bill because the nation said so

Jesus the world is full of morons
Posted by mtntiger
Asheville, NC
Member since Oct 2003
26642 posts
Posted on 6/11/17 at 1:44 pm to
Rand is right. Too bad he sucks at building coalitions/consensus.
Posted by ChexMix
Taste the Deliciousness
Member since Apr 2014
25039 posts
Posted on 6/11/17 at 1:44 pm to
Rand Paul sucks and will never be President
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
29169 posts
Posted on 6/11/17 at 1:47 pm to
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Well unfortunately you have to run a capable campaign to win



You're right, but a lot of campaigning is just theatrics though. We are losing sight (lost a long time ago really) of who would actually be best at governance over who has the most commercials and internet presence and such - and almost all of that is just fluff.
This post was edited on 6/11/17 at 1:48 pm
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
29169 posts
Posted on 6/11/17 at 1:49 pm to
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Rand Paul sucks



How come?
Posted by alatxtgr
The Nation of Texas
Member since Sep 2006
2287 posts
Posted on 6/11/17 at 1:50 pm to
I'm with Rand....
Posted by MAGA
Member since Sep 2016
581 posts
Posted on 6/11/17 at 1:52 pm to
Straight up repeal and no replacement is fine with me.
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 6/11/17 at 1:55 pm to
He still has 30 years or so to try and is limited to 8 if he ever wins and I believe he will be needed more later anyway
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