re: Rand Paul backs Obama on Cuba

It's a triumph for the Obama legacy.

Rand Paul should be commended for following his president.

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This is something you'll never see Hillary do.

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Um....She's pushed for this for years. LINK

And she did comment. LINK /

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Americans were allowed to purchase land and open businesses. Casinos and beach resorts would make a killing.

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Cuba may open up far beyond what we know today, but, I would be very shocked if the Government of Cuba allowed any US citizen or interest to own property or commercial enterprises ever again in Cuba.

Investment, perhaps, but ownership? I would be shocked.

Cuba's recollection of the days of yore when US business interests owned entertainment enterprises in Cuba is that those were the bad ole days. I doubt that they will repeat that part of their history.

No he told the fricking truth which no politician can ever seem to do no a days.

Will be be huge boom for Gulf Coast.

and frick you ex pat Cubans dinosaurs in Miami, what have you mfers ever done for anyone. Just die already!

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This is not politics, it's statesmanship

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It isnt statesmanship because he's not a statesman. I cant understand how some people actually believe the shite obama is throwing out there. Canada and the Europeans and the Vatican and the countries of Central America and the countries of South America have been trying to broker a deal for decades. It didnt get done with Democratic or Republican presidents, because they realized it was bad politics and a bad idea.

Also most presidents wouldnt trade three spies (including one responsible for the death of 4 US citizens) for one contractor. And that is another royal frick up by Obama. So now if the USA catches one of your spies or has someone under arrest just grab the nearest American, accuse him of espionage, throw him in jail, and negotiate a trade with the moron Obama.

It is all politics and now with polls showing that the youngest generations of Cuban Americans (who never lived under the Castros) support ending the embargo and other hispanic groups support ending the embargo he acts. I bet in the first five years out of office he will make a statement or have one of his cronies make a statement that he delivered the Hispanic vote to the democratic party for our lifetimes. That is what this is about, his legacy. It sure isnt about statesmanship or the Cuban people.

If it was about the Cuban people or some grand statement then why was it contigent on getting Alan Gross out?

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Several months ago, Secretary of State John Kerry warned Cuba’s foreign minister, Bruno Rodríguez Parrilla, that if Mr. Gross died in captivity, all of the administration’s efforts to reopen relations with Cuba would be for naught.

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So a 65 year old man who refuses medical care dies and this whole deal is cancelled? Its because its not about the Cuban people or statesmanship. Its about the hispanic vote and Obama trying to repair his putrid foreign policy record. And its to try and convince the uneducated he is doing something grand. He cant build an embassy or get an ambassador confirmed. Congress may even get pissed and pass more laws strengthening the embargo. Its ALL politics.

Good. I would like IA orders to Gitmo, but don't want them if I'm stuck on base all day.

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Um....She's pushed for this for years.

And she did comment.

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I wasn't talking about this specifically, but her pattern of being overly cautious, and afraid to weigh in on hot-button issues when the arise, before she sees which way the wind is blowing and her handlers have crafted a carefully worded statement for her.

I am Rand ya ya ya.

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Will be be huge boom for Gulf Coast.

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Agree. It is time. This is generational move because the young Cuban Americans want it. Winds of change is not a bad thing and Republicans need to change with the tide.

I am going to put on my tinfoil hat though and wonder if the Vatican Bank suddenly "finding" new millions was somehow related to their facilitation of this agreement.

From Dec 4th New York Times and then 10+ days later, an announcement? Makes me go HHHHMMMMMM.

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Cardinal George Pell, who took over as the Vatican’s chief financial official in February, said Thursday that his staff had turned up hundreds of millions of euros that the Vatican did not know it had. The funds were “tucked away” in various accounts, he said, and had not been tallied on the Vatican’s main balance sheets. The cardinal presented the found money as a happy surprise. “We have discovered that the situation is much healthier than it seemed,” he wrote in an article for the magazine Catholic Herald, which is scheduled to be published Friday. “It is important to point out that the Vatican is not broke.”

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Vatican Finds money