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Posted on 4/16/14 at 11:00 am to WildTchoupitoulas
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This isn't necessarily a bad thing. As long as there are competing interests in the market place, we would expect these interests to cancel each other out.
If only we had a truly open, competitive marketplace and not one where the government picks winners and losers.
Posted on 4/16/14 at 11:03 am to ShortyRob
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The "rich" vote conservative
The rich don't need to vote, they buy candidates for everyone else to 'choose' from. Think about it, if you can buy a candidate that will garner millions of votes, that's much more efficient than just having one single vote.
This isn't about Ds or Rs, or Ls or Cs. It's about $s.
Posted on 4/16/14 at 11:04 am to WildTchoupitoulas
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This isn't about Ds or Rs, or Ls or Cs. It's about $s.
Posted on 4/16/14 at 11:06 am to Rohan2Reed
Is this supposed to be news to the ears? Every democracy since its beginning in Ancient Greece has been an oligarchy. The alleged birthplace of democracy in Ancient Greece was an oligarchy under a new label. It basically served to keep the previous feudal system in tact by simply making smaller adjustments involving taxation and extortion that appealed to the peasantry subjects' ears.
Posted on 4/16/14 at 11:08 am to WildTchoupitoulas
The average Republican is so comically delusional and misinformed. He thinks that Cliven Bundy is one of his kind, when Cliven Bundy is a rich white man mooching off the people's land. He thinks that giving the people's land to private interests will benefit himself, when what it will do is further enrich the rich who can afford it.
Posted on 4/16/14 at 11:09 am to WildTchoupitoulas
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This isn't necessarily a bad thing. As long as there are competing interests in the market place, we would expect these interests to cancel each other out. It's where their interests are NOT in conflict that we see them concentrate power and act outside of the People's interests.
The theory might seem legit, but you cannot sit there and say that the current policies have anything to do with the middle working class in the US.
IT is either pander to the rich, or hand shite out to the poor.
Meanwhile we are stuck in the middle with little to no voice.
Posted on 4/16/14 at 11:09 am to PrimeTime Money
Good, because the average US voter doesn't know a damn thing about what is good for the country.
Posted on 4/16/14 at 11:09 am to Rex
Tell us about the average Dem Gerald. 
Posted on 4/16/14 at 11:11 am to PrimeTime Money
Of course it is. Election campaigns are expensive, so you have to be wealthy to begin with, or willing to whore yourself out to special interests to finance your election. Once in power, you rig the game to your benefit or the benefit of the money brokers who paid your way. Any show of backbone will have your opponent financed and you sent back home. And I don't see a way to change it honestly.
Posted on 4/16/14 at 11:13 am to Rex
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The average Republican is so comically delusional and misinformed. He thinks that Cliven Bundy is one of his kind, when Cliven Bundy is a rich white man mooching off the people's land. He thinks that giving the people's land to private interests will benefit himself, when what it will do is further enrich the rich who can afford it.
In a true free market system it wouldn't be the rich who would ultimately use the land it would be whichever private entity can most efficiently use it to produce goods and services in a cost-effective way that's good for both their bottom line and for the consumer.
Posted on 4/16/14 at 11:15 am to Rohan2Reed
What crony capitalist wants a free market?
Posted on 4/16/14 at 11:16 am to JayDeerTay84
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The theory might seem legit, but you cannot sit there and say that the current policies have anything to do with the middle working class in the US.
One thing that all rich will agree on and support is the continued ability to buy politicians. It is in their interests to support one another in propagating that system. That's what screws the average joe, when the rich can all agree on a certain course of action.
In a place where money = speech, those with more money have more speech, and those with no money have no speech. The rich would always want to support money = speech. They'd be stupid, and acting against their interests, not to.
Posted on 4/16/14 at 11:17 am to UncleFestersLegs
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What crony capitalist wants a free market?
Exactly. Throw all these fricking bums out.
Posted on 4/16/14 at 11:17 am to Rex
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The average Republican is so comically delusional and misinformed.
I'm going to go ahead and say that the average person with a party affiliation on their voter reg. card is delusional and misinformed - and naïve.
Posted on 4/16/14 at 11:19 am to WildTchoupitoulas
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WildTchoupitoulas
Princeton study: U.S. is an oligarchy
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The average Republican is so comically delusional and misinformed.
I'm going to go ahead and say that the average person with a party affiliation on their voter reg. card is delusional and misinformed - and naïve.
yep ... anyone who votes pub or dem is naive ...
which means we're fricked ...
Posted on 4/16/14 at 11:20 am to Rohan2Reed
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In a true free market system
There is no "true free market system", unless you think the inevitable monopolies resulting from the absence of regulation is a "free market".
Posted on 4/16/14 at 11:22 am to Rex
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There is no "true free market system", unless you think the inevitable monopolies resulting from the absence of regulation is a "free market".
There are few people who believe in a complete absence of any government regulation for accountability of business practices. Nice generalization though. Yet another fail in your string of many.
Posted on 4/16/14 at 11:22 am to WildTchoupitoulas
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In a place where money = speech, those with more money have more speech, and those with no money have no speech. The rich would always want to support money = speech. They'd be stupid, and acting against their interests, not to.
It wouldn't matter if that decision went the other way. You cant pay football recruits but what idiot believes that isn't happening?
The only solution is to remove the impetus. De-centralized power is much harder to bribe yet we continue to expand the reach of fed.gov
Posted on 4/16/14 at 11:23 am to Draconian Sanctions
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It's only going to get worse with these damaging SCOTUS rulings over the last few years. The republic is ostensibly dead.
US Supreme Court justice Anthony Kennedy, Citizens United decision, 2010: “The appearance of influence or access … will not cause the electorate to lose faith in our democracy.”
What a fricking clown Kennedy is.
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