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Posted by FooManChoo
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Posted on 3/26/17 at 9:41 pm to
There is Christianity and then there are false religions.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 3/26/17 at 10:01 pm to
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There is Christianity and then there are false religions.

I assume you realize how laughable this statement is to non-Christians?
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 3/26/17 at 10:41 pm to
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I assume you realize how laughable this statement is to non-Christians
Of course I do.

"For the word of the cross is folly to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God" -1 Cor. 1:18
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 3/26/17 at 10:46 pm to
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It's very believable to a lot of people yet the number of believers does not dictate it's truth.


Sure. It's also not believable to many more.

Nothing dictates its truth.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 3/26/17 at 11:38 pm to
There are some predestined to be regenerated and given faith to believe in Jesus. These people are called the elect and are saved from the wrath of God against their sin. The rest are not given faith and are considered reprobate and must endure the wrath of God against their sin after death.

It is expected that not all people will believe the gospel and that many will think it is foolishness; a joke, even.

There are many evidences that the Bible is true but only a person with a changed heart will believe them as such. It is expected because salvation comes through faith, and faith by grace from God, who will not save everyone.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 3/26/17 at 11:43 pm to
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There are many evidences that the Bible is true


There is zero evidence that the Bible is wholly true. A few stories written down and passed off as divine are not evidence of the truth of anything else.
Posted by jeff5891
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 3/26/17 at 11:57 pm to
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It is expected because salvation comes through faith, and faith by grace from God, who will not save everyone.


If God only judges based on faith, then he isn't worth worshipping
This post was edited on 3/27/17 at 12:05 am
Posted by genuineLSUtiger
Nashville
Member since Sep 2005
72937 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 12:00 am to
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If God only judges based on faith, then he isn't worth worshipping


The God of the Bible is a tyrant created in man's own image. Any so-called God who creates defective human beings and then sentences them to eternal hellfire isn't worth worshipping. He is a monster created in the twisted subconscious of the human mind.
Posted by bencoleman
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Posted on 3/27/17 at 12:02 am to
[quote]There are some predestined to be regenerated and given faith to believe in Jesus. These people are called the elect and are saved from the wrath of God against their sin. The rest are leftist trash and are destined to burn in the fires of hell for all eternity.
Posted by genuineLSUtiger
Nashville
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 3/27/17 at 12:03 am to
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[quote]There are some predestined to be regenerated and given faith to believe in Jesus. These people are called the elect and are saved from the wrath of God against their sin. The rest are leftist trash and are destined to burn in the fires of hell for all eternity.


Posted by Jorts R Us
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 3/27/17 at 12:21 am to
Just when I think this place can't get any more pathetic...
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
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Posted on 3/27/17 at 12:24 am to
Was she texting images back to her cell?
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
35478 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 12:31 am to
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Just when I think this place can't get any more pathetic.

Never ever think that. This barrel has no bottom.
Posted by Jorts R Us
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 3/27/17 at 12:32 am to
Seriously? Like p3. Mystery solved.
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
20412 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 1:01 am to
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Are you talking about the dude in the backpack just standing there doing nothing?
I dont know is he a fricking Dr? what do you expect him to do? wear a hijab and ignore them?
Posted by FanInLA
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 3/27/17 at 1:09 am to
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There are many evidences that the Bible is true but only a person with a changed heart will believe them as such. It is expected because salvation comes through faith, and faith by grace from God, who will not save everyone.


You are letting a book written by man to rule your spiritually so much that you know longer can connect reality and your spiritual mind. And then people who are based on reality have to deal with your skewed view on the world and a logical discussion it then impossible because the logic is one sided.
Posted by Wes B
WESton-Broom
Member since Jun 2012
356 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 1:25 am to
The Caucasian man standing over the victim with his hands in his pockets?
Posted by Loserman
Member since Sep 2007
21873 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 5:29 am to
She couldn't help not seeing it. She was playing Pokemon Go
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
41669 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 10:24 am to
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There is zero evidence that the Bible is wholly true. A few stories written down and passed off as divine are not evidence of the truth of anything else
The Bible, as a historical document, is generally reliable. Luke, in particular, gives many historical details that have been confirmed as accurate in regards to names, places, and events. He's on par with other trusted ancient historians (such as Josephus, Tacitus, and Suetonius) that modern historians accept as generally trustworthy.

Luke's account of Jesus is one of a prophet that even secular people and adherents of other religions accept. Most historians therefore believe that Jesus existed even if they don't believe the supernatural aspects of his personhood as described in the Bible, even though the best evidence of Jesus comes from the Bible, itself.

Archaeology generally supports the Bible in terms of names, places, and events. We don't have archaeological evidence for everything stated in the Bible, but many things that are stated are supported by extra-biblical discoveries.

I believe the best evidences of the reliability of the Bible comes from the Bible, itself, namely that the claimed truths about people and the worldview it proclaims, as they are consistent with what we observe today, and that the supernatural events in the Bible are meant to point to the truthfulness of that message.

From an individual perspective, the Holy Spirit testifies internally to the truthfulness of the Bible, but that doesn't mean much to someone who doesn't have the Holy Spirit working within them.

All evidence is subject to interpretation based on the context and worldview of the person doing the interpreting. Therefore there is no single evidence that is brute in its being that will be enough to convince someone of the authenticity and reliability of the scriptures. That's why faith is so important.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
41669 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 10:30 am to
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If God only judges based on faith, then he isn't worth worshipping
God judges based on works, but unfortunately there is no one whose works stand up to the standard of perfection that God requires. That's why Jesus died on the cross, so that His perfect obedience (that did meet the standard of God) could be imputed to sinners and that the guilt of sin that sinners have could be imputed to Christ and punished in His undeserved death. Faith is what receives the imputation of Christ's righteousness. That is the essence of the gospel.

God does judge each individual according to their works, but the judgment is about how severe the punishment is in Hell or how great the blessing is in Heaven. In regards to Heaven, it's often said that faith gets you the house and your works decide how good the furniture is inside. It's a crude analogy but I think it's sufficient.

Whether you think that is a God worthy of your worship is up to you. I believe the Bible's account of God and believe that is the only God worthy of worship.
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