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re: Powerful forces all lining up to stop St. George
Posted on 4/16/14 at 6:20 pm to MrCoolBeans
Posted on 4/16/14 at 6:20 pm to MrCoolBeans
If you don't think this is about greed then you are fooling yourself. The community that has always called themselves "St. George" does not include the Mall, Perkins Rowe, or the Gardere area which now has a casino.
The St. George people have lied to their supporters saying they won't need to raise taxes. The same thing happened when Central first incorporated.
St. George knows they would have zero ways of forming a government without the big money areas that are out of their "community" so they are trying to take them. All about money. People living around Bluebonnet, Gardere, Perkins, Essen etc are not from "St. George" and have never associated themselves with that area.
The St. George people have lied to their supporters saying they won't need to raise taxes. The same thing happened when Central first incorporated.
St. George knows they would have zero ways of forming a government without the big money areas that are out of their "community" so they are trying to take them. All about money. People living around Bluebonnet, Gardere, Perkins, Essen etc are not from "St. George" and have never associated themselves with that area.
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Posted on 4/16/14 at 6:24 pm to Mickey Goldmill
Similarly, the downtown people want the money too.
Posted on 4/16/14 at 6:55 pm to MrCoolBeans
Dragons can be terrorists too ???? I can't see that equating the story about St. George slaying the dragon is the same as calling people terrorists or racists but if you do fine . I d not.
Posted on 4/16/14 at 7:00 pm to Mickey Goldmill
You realize those "people" aren't in Baton Rouge city either right? Of course it's about money those in the city want to keep it and those out of the city want to keep theirs.
So what?
So what?
Posted on 4/16/14 at 7:01 pm to Mickey Goldmill
The proposed St George City consists of the St. George and East Side Fire Districts . Both areas are not inside of the city limits nor are they included in the area covered by the city fire departments.
The fact that BR didn't want yo incorporate these areas is not the fault of SG. It is a result of the way BR had limited the services they provide and not because of anything SG did or didn't do.
The fact that BR didn't want yo incorporate these areas is not the fault of SG. It is a result of the way BR had limited the services they provide and not because of anything SG did or didn't do.
Posted on 4/16/14 at 7:03 pm to Elcid96
It's really about schools
SG was told it needed to be a city to get their own school district. Well that's what they are trying to do. Form a city to form a school district. It's not complicated.
SG was told it needed to be a city to get their own school district. Well that's what they are trying to do. Form a city to form a school district. It's not complicated.
Posted on 4/16/14 at 7:05 pm to doubleb
School and money!
I have no problem with either one.
The fact that those who oppose it call it greed is
I have no problem with either one.
The fact that those who oppose it call it greed is
This post was edited on 4/16/14 at 7:07 pm
Posted on 4/16/14 at 7:57 pm to Elcid96
quote:
You realize those "people" aren't in Baton Rouge city either right? Of course it's about money those in the city want to keep it and those out of the city want to keep theirs.
I'm fully aware the area is unincorporated. The supporters of SG like to claim that they are their own community like Central or Zachary or Baker. That may be true, but that "community" never consisted of the areas they are currently trying to take.
There hasn't been a vocal push from the bluebonnet area to be incorporated into SG. I've actually heard several businesses say they are deeply concerned at the prospect of higher taxes because the SG organizers have given them zero information.
Posted on 4/16/14 at 8:52 pm to Mickey Goldmill
quote:
I'm fully aware the area is unincorporated. The supporters of SG like to claim that they are their own community like Central or Zachary or Baker. That may be true, but that "community" never consisted of the areas they are currently trying to take.
That's going to be a tough argument to make if they vote to incorporate.
Posted on 4/17/14 at 7:58 am to doubleb
Apparently the deal Nevers wanted to cut wasn't good enough for the BR pols. Now they want to move things up to Nov. 4th. to save money. wink wink.
From the Advocate:
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Once again we see political forces stacking the deck, changing the rules, and using whatever excuse they can to stop the SG incorporation. Nothing has changed.
From the Advocate:
LINK
quote:
“That was not what was discussed,” Browning said about meetings with state Sen. Ben Nevers, the chief sponsor of Senate Bill 674.
The dates of the two-year moratorium in the original legislation would have been a blow to St. George organizers by basically halting the effort in its tracks. Browning said the deal had been to postpone the moratorium until January.
Once again we see political forces stacking the deck, changing the rules, and using whatever excuse they can to stop the SG incorporation. Nothing has changed.
Posted on 4/17/14 at 8:38 am to doubleb
If they can't get the required amount of signatures in a year, then there is no massive movement to incorporate.
Posted on 4/17/14 at 8:58 am to LSURussian
Per the linked article, the drive started on 9/23/13 so according to your self imposed time frame; they should be OK.
LINK
But if there is no massive move to incorporate what are you, Holden, Nevers, Dorsey, and the others worried about???? Why go to all this trouble to block an election?
LINK
But if there is no massive move to incorporate what are you, Holden, Nevers, Dorsey, and the others worried about???? Why go to all this trouble to block an election?
Posted on 4/17/14 at 9:00 am to doubleb
quote:What is blocking the election? Stop being so fu*king paranoid (and lying).
Why go to all this trouble to block an election?
Posted on 4/17/14 at 9:01 am to LSURussian
The ridiculously dramatic title of this thread gets a laugh out of me every time I open this board.
Posted on 4/17/14 at 9:02 am to Rickety Cricket
quote:
The ridiculously dramatic title of this thread gets a laugh out of me every time I open this board.
Me, too. Posted on 4/17/14 at 9:04 am to LSURussian
If doubleb and the St. Georgians can somehow get the ring to Mordor, they just might repel the powerful forces and save the incorporation movement!
Posted on 4/17/14 at 9:06 am to Rickety Cricket
Posted on 4/17/14 at 9:11 am to LSURussian
quote:
What is blocking the election? Stop being so fu*king paranoid (and lying).
You forget that originally Nevers started out with a bill to block ALL incorporations.
Now because of some pressure they amended their bill to block ALL incorporations statewide except SG, but SG is being told to be ready for Nov. 4th. or else.
Of course you know all this, and you're just trying to muddy the waters.
And for Cricket chirping in, if you believe it's over dramatic fine, but I think most fair minded people find out that writing laws and making them retroactive to stop legitimate petitions is wrong.
And if you can't see powerful people in govt. using their political muscle to screw the people who are following the law as it now stands, I can't help you out at all.
Again, if there is not enough support for an election, why are these people including Russian so up and arms? Why not let these people simply fall on their face? What are ya'll afraid of?
Posted on 4/17/14 at 9:13 am to LSURussian
quote:
If they can't get the required amount of signatures in a year, then there is no massive movement to incorporate.
I cannot argue with this statement.
In that case, I predict that the reason for there being no massive incorporation movement will be debated here quite enthusiastically for months.
Posted on 4/17/14 at 9:14 am to doubleb
quote:
If they can't get the required amount of signatures in a year, then there is no massive movement to incorporate.
I think there is certainly some truth to that
quote:
But if there is no massive move to incorporate what are you, Holden, Nevers, Dorsey, and the others worried about???? Why go to all this trouble to block an election?
While they aren't necessarily "blocking" a vote, make no mistake BR is terrified that St. George may come to furition. Otherwise, there would be no reason to push all of these bills through the legislature.
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