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re: Portland terrorist

Posted on 5/28/17 at 12:23 pm to
Posted by AggieDub14
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Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 5/28/17 at 12:23 pm to
I never said those things are okay. Come on man...
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge LA
Member since Sep 2006
36113 posts
Posted on 5/28/17 at 12:23 pm to
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Once again, you ignorant frick. People weren't defending him. People were correcting your dumb arse on what is and is not terrorism.

Uh, you might want to read what I just posted first. None of the defenses I posted were saying it's not terrorism. I did not include those. In fact, some of the posts used the word defend, defending, defense, etc. Uh, that's defending him. I Know you have a hard time admitting it, because, to you your own words,
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you ignorant frick


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That's a citizen defending himself against 3 attackers trying to suppress his Freedom of Speech. Self defense case.

Just because someone is being a jerk with words is not a reason to lay hands on them. Do so at your own peril, obviously.

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I like how they blame the American for the attack when there were 2 Muslims right there that they can't find now

Fake news

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Self defense case.
Im guessing this is not how it's going to go down.


From the little I have read about it that is exactly what is going to go down and he may very likely prevail.

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I'm sure the Muslims attacked first

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We still don't have the facts here, y'all are jumping to conclusions. 2 Muslims are on a train, an American guy starts yelling (probably for help) and now people are dead (stabbed just like in the France terror attacks) and the Muslims can't be found

Hmmm something is suspicious here....
This post was edited on 5/28/17 at 12:27 pm
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
35035 posts
Posted on 5/28/17 at 12:24 pm to
Still waiting on your bill of rights explanation.


Posted by UnwashedVol
Johnson City
Member since Apr 2017
206 posts
Posted on 5/28/17 at 12:24 pm to
You strike me as a Tariq Nasheed fan.
Posted by montanagator
Member since Jun 2015
16957 posts
Posted on 5/28/17 at 12:25 pm to
Look at that photo, he's one of the based idiots. Like that stickman convict.
Posted by AggieDub14
Oil Baron
Member since Oct 2015
14624 posts
Posted on 5/28/17 at 12:26 pm to
Public execution is cruel and unusual punishment. Regardless of their crime. I figured this was obvious. Didn't think you'd actually make me type it out.
This post was edited on 5/28/17 at 12:27 pm
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
35035 posts
Posted on 5/28/17 at 12:26 pm to
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Uh, you might want to read what I just posted first.


Just did. And they are just as ignorant as the people trying to yell it was a terrorist attack.

To be honest, I didn't participate or read the thread yesterday as I was on my boat getting drunk.

So I'll take back my statement calling you ignorant. This one time.
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge LA
Member since Sep 2006
36113 posts
Posted on 5/28/17 at 12:28 pm to
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So I'll take back my statement calling you ignorant. This one time.


Deal.
This post was edited on 5/28/17 at 12:29 pm
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
35035 posts
Posted on 5/28/17 at 12:28 pm to
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Public execution is cruel and unusual punishment. Regardless of their crime.


False.

Try again.

Cruel and unusual would be things like torture, confined to a 2x2 cell, withholding food and water.

Public execution is no more cruel nor unusual than a normal execution behind closed doors. Only difference is the public gets to witness justice be served.
Posted by AggieDub14
Oil Baron
Member since Oct 2015
14624 posts
Posted on 5/28/17 at 12:32 pm to
We disagree then
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
35035 posts
Posted on 5/28/17 at 12:34 pm to
Just curious.

What makes a public execution cruel and unusual compared to a closed execution? They would do the exact same thing. The prisoner would still die in the exact same manner.

What if they just let one news camera in and broadcast it live on TV?

Is it cruel because it's broadcast live?
Posted by AggieDub14
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Member since Oct 2015
14624 posts
Posted on 5/28/17 at 12:35 pm to
Yes.
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
35035 posts
Posted on 5/28/17 at 12:39 pm to
So descriptive.

So are videos showing military action against the enemy cruel? Wwii film? Live video of a police chase that ends in a shootout? The Dallas shootout where we saw cops shot live on TV?

Your explanation is live on screen death is cruel. Yet we have a plethora of other examples of deaths live on screen all the time.

And then movies. Oh the movies. They can handle a guy sawing his own foot off? But watching a guy get an IV and going to sleep is cruel?

Or video games.

The list goes on and on.

Why are public execution cruel and unusual but the rest are perfectly fine to broadcast live to the world?

I'm actually quite curious in how you answer this.
Posted by AggieDub14
Oil Baron
Member since Oct 2015
14624 posts
Posted on 5/28/17 at 12:40 pm to
Military and police action isn't the same thing.

And fiction isn't the same as real life.
Posted by MizzouBS
Missouri
Member since Dec 2014
5840 posts
Posted on 5/28/17 at 12:42 pm to
Terrorism is an act to cause fear or terror for political, religious, or ideological reasons. It is not terrorism if someone just starts killing people or is trying to kill people.

It may be defined as a hate crime or just murder. This happens everyday
This post was edited on 5/28/17 at 12:46 pm
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 5/28/17 at 12:56 pm to
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White supremacist attacked good Americans standing up against up. Why no outrage here?



Do tell us the church he went to where he got training on how to do that. Maybe post a link to a magazine teaching the techniques for what he did.

Can you see a difference now?
Posted by MButterfly
Quantico
Member since Oct 2015
6860 posts
Posted on 5/28/17 at 1:04 pm to
Video doesn't show him using the N-word.


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That's a citizen defending himself against 3 attackers trying to suppress his Freedom of Speech. Self defense case.

Just because someone is being a jerk with words is not a reason to lay hands on them. Do so at your own peril, obviously.


I have not seen what they are referring to. If they were attacking him, they were wrong and he has the right to defend himself regardless if he is a white supremacist. Saying that does not = defending what he stood for or against.


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I like how they blame the American for the attack when there were 2 Muslims right there that they can't find now



The rest Seems to be looking for more information and not defending.

Where am I missing what you are saying?

Posted by GeauxLSUGeaux
1 room down from Erin Andrews
Member since May 2004
23309 posts
Posted on 5/28/17 at 1:07 pm to
Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
19701 posts
Posted on 5/28/17 at 1:15 pm to
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Based on his Facebook comments and based on people flat out defending him in the other thread. 
looks like mostly he hates the Jews, so he's probably a leftist. He would get along with golden nugget
Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
48313 posts
Posted on 5/28/17 at 1:16 pm to
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White supremacist attacked good Americans standing up against up. Why no outrage here?


It was discussed yesterday. Based on the facts present, guy should do life in prison. But it wasn't a terrorist act.
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