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Posted on 3/14/24 at 1:38 pm to tiggerthetooth
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Why is it mandatory that children consume porn?
It’s not. But it is inevitable.
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? Why do people believe it's impossible to keep children from consuming porn?
Because they live in reality.
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This plus other blockers can make it harder.
No it doesn’t. At all. There’s porn on Reddit and Twitter.
You absolutely cannot prevent someone who wants to access it from finding it. Some of the most visited porn sites aren’t even American and will never comply with anything like this.
Posted on 3/14/24 at 1:39 pm to 3nOut
Porn is destructive. I support PH not providing their "services" in as many places as possible.
Posted on 3/14/24 at 1:40 pm to 3nOut
Use a VPN that says your in another state. Problem solved. That's what underage people will do also.
Posted on 3/14/24 at 1:45 pm to 3nOut
Doesn't this site have actual rape and exploitation videos on it? Pretty sure that doesn't promote a culture of "safety".
Posted on 3/14/24 at 1:45 pm to 3nOut
do teenagers still have to show ID if they want to buy cigarettes or dip?
Posted on 3/14/24 at 1:45 pm to Indefatigable
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You absolutely cannot prevent someone who wants to access it from finding it. Some of the most visited porn sites aren’t even American and will never comply with anything like this.
i work in the web filtering world. this is entirely true.
but... locked doors keep honest men honest.
it's not a Biblical or Empirical Truth or anything, but it is something that has stood the test of time.
Posted on 3/14/24 at 1:46 pm to 3nOut
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locked doors keep honest men honest.
Horny 15 year old boys are not honest men
Posted on 3/14/24 at 1:47 pm to tiggerthetooth
quote:That's you making your own fairly odd assumption because nothing in my post was even remotely supportive of minors consuming porn or anything else.
You operate under the assumption that drinking and porn consumption is impossible to derail and its nearly a rite of passage.
What I'm operating under is the theory that if I have multiple outlets providing something that I'm actually trying to protect children from, forcing a handful to comply while allowing thousands of others to operate unhindered is wholey ineffective. And I agree with their argument that forcing the device, and not the site, to verify is a far more effective solution. That is, if your actually interested insolutions and not wasting time with feel-good grandstanding.
Posted on 3/14/24 at 1:48 pm to Indefatigable
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Horny 15 year old boys are not honest men
absolutely not. i'm a 40 year old Christian man and i like them boobs. but having safeguards to not cheat on my wife, look at porn, etc. is not terrible.
Posted on 3/14/24 at 1:50 pm to 3nOut
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absolutely not. i'm a 40 year old Christian man and i like them boobs. but having safeguards to not cheat on my wife, look at porn, etc. is not terrible.
I’m not advocating for porn by any means.
My point is that legislation like this is entirely ineffective virtue signaling that will inevitably expand to extend this sort of thing to scopes beyond porn.
Posted on 3/14/24 at 1:52 pm to 3nOut
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the whole thing is basically PornHub getting mad that they have to ask for ID. Same as LA
no, you are not even close, the issue is with the verify age page
people see that and just go to the dozens of other porn sites around the world without any age verification
they just go to other porn sites rather than give any personal info to a porn site, WOULD YOU
thats the issue, its hard to compete because not all sites are blocked, just the targeted ones they had the ability to go after with lawfare.
as is always the case, its about lost revenue
This post was edited on 3/14/24 at 1:56 pm
Posted on 3/14/24 at 1:54 pm to keakar
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as is always the case, its about lost revenue
pornhub has free porn. what is the revenue they're losing?
Posted on 3/14/24 at 1:55 pm to 3nOut
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but having safeguards to not cheat on my wife, look at porn, etc. is not terrible.
You are free to install those safeguards yourself.
Why do you need the state to do that? I'd rather pay less taxes than have the state make sure it's harder for you to look at porn.
This post was edited on 3/14/24 at 1:57 pm
Posted on 3/14/24 at 1:56 pm to 3nOut
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what is the revenue they're losing?
advertising revenue pays the bills to keep sites running, anything that reduces clicks reduces add revenue
This post was edited on 3/14/24 at 1:58 pm
Posted on 3/14/24 at 1:58 pm to 3nOut
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I'm not arguing the merits of porn being good or bad (I think it's bad
If looking at nekkid women is wrong, I don’t want to be right.
Posted on 3/14/24 at 1:59 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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Why do you need the state to do that?
why do we have seatbelt laws, voter ID (laws,) minimum age for alcohol, smoking, building regulations, etc.?
i'm not saying all are good or bad, but some people won't protect themselves or others if they don't have to.
i'm a libertarian capitalist. but i also think all protectionists laws aren't all bad.
People act like having a moral society enforced by law is bad, but we'll pull back the veneer when it's not the morals we like.
This post was edited on 3/14/24 at 2:01 pm
Posted on 3/14/24 at 2:05 pm to 3nOut
Government shouldn’t control what we the people view. Same with TikTok. Ban it on all of the government devices but a free america has no power to ban the app to its free citizens. And no, I do not nor ever will have TikTok. I’m just a Patriot who believes in less government.
Posted on 3/14/24 at 2:05 pm to SixthAndBarone
You’re not wrong
Posted on 3/14/24 at 2:06 pm to 3nOut
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why do we have seatbelt laws, voter ID (laws,) minimum age for alcohol, smoking, building regulations, etc.?
This is a cop out argument.
Why do you believe it is in our best interest that the state spend taxpayer money enforcing age restrictions on viewing media in private?
Why is the state the best party to do that?
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