- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
Please inform me. Why did Obama think health insurance should be controlled by the feds?
Posted on 7/3/17 at 6:57 pm
Posted on 7/3/17 at 6:57 pm
My health insurance now is useless garbage, what in the frick? I'm $5k and counting out of pocket for a broken ankle which required surgery for my son. My premium is $450 a month through my employer.
In 2004 my premium was half that and I was out of pocket less than $800 for 2 back surgeries, frick this bullshite.
In 2004 my premium was half that and I was out of pocket less than $800 for 2 back surgeries, frick this bullshite.
Posted on 7/3/17 at 6:57 pm to Rekrul
Power and control of the populace.
Posted on 7/3/17 at 6:58 pm to Rekrul
quote:
Please inform me. Why did Obama think health insurance should be controlled by the feds?
Because you don't care enough. The government will make you care via taking your money each month.
Posted on 7/3/17 at 6:58 pm to Rekrul
He said, "i am my brothers keeper."
Ask any Christian about that saying.
Ask any Christian about that saying.
Posted on 7/3/17 at 6:58 pm to Rekrul
Because they wanted this hodgepodge to fail to force everyone into single payer
Posted on 7/3/17 at 6:59 pm to Rekrul
Because that's how the Heritage Foundation drew it up.
Posted on 7/3/17 at 6:59 pm to CelticDog
quote:
He said, "i am my brothers keeper by government fiat."
FIFY baw!
Posted on 7/3/17 at 7:00 pm to Rekrul
It was designed to fail with producers subsidizing the takers until it collapsed.
They thought Hillary was going to win.
They thought Hillary was going to win.
Posted on 7/3/17 at 7:01 pm to CelticDog
quote:
He said, "i am my brothers keeper."
Ask any Christian about that saying.
I'm sure Jesus would applaud a system that puts a crushing financial burden on working people
Posted on 7/3/17 at 7:10 pm to Rekrul
quote:
My health insurance now is useless garbage, what in the frick? I'm $5k and counting out of pocket for a broken ankle which required surgery for my son. My premium is $450 a month through my employer.
In 2004 my premium was half that and I was out of pocket less than $800 for 2 back surgeries, frick this bullshite.
I think many of us have all been in that situation with this country's healthcare system. I paid thousands out of pocket to my insurer before they lifted a finger to help with kidney stone treatment. As a much younger, and only slightly above entry level employed person. Ultimately the insurers tried to kick back thousands more. First to the hospital and then to me. Was a nightmare.....This was 2004. Back then I was just lucky I didn't have my policy completely rescinded because I might have forget to cross a 'T" or dot an "I." Or my care wasnt so expensive or I hit some complications that would hit my lifetime caps.
It wasn't Obama that created the employer tax credit that is the closest contributor to your market situation or mine. That market distortion came much earlier, circa WWII. If anything you should be thankful you didn't get stuck in the individual market where things are really stacked against you. I know that is not comforting, but it could be even worse is all I am saying, your situation still sucks and should be remedied IMO.
But the trend of higher deductibles has been an ongoing one.
Employers, going back to 2006 and 2007 have reduced the amount they pay for their portion of health benefits. While costs have slowed overall, and employers by and large have seen decreases in the growth of their per person costs, the opposite has been true on average for employees. Who have seen more of the cost burden shifted to their end with higher deductible plans and less generous coverage.
You seem to be someone in that situation, where you are strapped with a really high out of pocket deductible that is squeezing your disposable income. Not an enviable situation. Also not sure you are going to get very far by just repeating the ACA for your situation. Healthcare inflation and market trends in the employer space are not magically going to reverse themselves.
This post was edited on 7/3/17 at 7:18 pm
Posted on 7/3/17 at 7:12 pm to Rekrul
He thinks everything should be controlled by the state. He's a communist plain and simple.
Posted on 7/3/17 at 7:13 pm to Bestbank Tiger
I am for single payer, free to poors,cheap to most.
Posted on 7/3/17 at 7:13 pm to Rekrul
It was meant to fail..see Jonathan Gruber.
Anyway, BHO sees himself and progressives like him as the benevolent rulers to us pitiful serfs, peons and other miscreants who just can't take care of ourselves and need these intellectually gifted bureaucrats to guide us in our daily life from the cradle to the grave while enacting laws requiring us to "give" to the government what they deem we can afford and then maybe be able to "take" from the government what they deem we need.
To hell with all of these people!
Anyway, BHO sees himself and progressives like him as the benevolent rulers to us pitiful serfs, peons and other miscreants who just can't take care of ourselves and need these intellectually gifted bureaucrats to guide us in our daily life from the cradle to the grave while enacting laws requiring us to "give" to the government what they deem we can afford and then maybe be able to "take" from the government what they deem we need.
To hell with all of these people!
Posted on 7/3/17 at 7:14 pm to CelticDog
quote:
I am for single payer, free to poors,cheap to most.
...and by "free to poors, cheap to most" you mean "open up your bank account because I said so"
Posted on 7/3/17 at 7:17 pm to Speckhunter2012
quote:
To hell with all of these people!
Absolutely, frick their subtle attempts at communism in this country. It will end badly for them 10 out of 10 times
Posted on 7/3/17 at 7:17 pm to bonhoeffer45
quote:
It wasn't Obama that created the employer tax credit that is the closest contributor to your market situation or mine. That market distortion came much earlier, circa WWII. If anything you should be thankful you didn't get stuck in the individual market where things are really stacked against you.
But it was Prez O who made affordable insurance illegal by piling on bogus coverage mandates.
Posted on 7/3/17 at 7:19 pm to Rekrul
Because of muh white privilage!
Posted on 7/3/17 at 7:22 pm to Bestbank Tiger
quote:
But it was Prez O who made affordable insurance illegal by piling on bogus coverage mandates.
Define affordable?
Because what you are saying is that it is shitty that Obama forced people in primarily one space - the individual market - to require a higher baseline of services from the insurance products provided.
As a consumer how do I benefit from the rampant issue of rescission(refusing to pay for people's expensive care due to technicalities), from low lifetime limits that mean if I get really sick insurance will not be there for me? For plans that have enormous deductibles that make routine and minor emergency care barely affordable? Or if I hit the genetic lottery and have a pre-existing condition?
What I hear conservatives call affordable is rarely what most people actually think is affordable, like the OP.
For instance the AHCA makes insurance affordable for some, only because they base it purely on premiums and not deductibles. They achieve lower premiums(and only to a small sliver of the population, older people are screwed) by vastly increasing deductibles. Allowing caps again, denying pre-existing conditions and reducing the benefit package insurers must cover. And as the CBO recently pointed out, the combined effort will actually lead to the 75% actuarial value policy under the new law, more expensive then the exact same 75% actuarial value policy under current arrangements.
This post was edited on 7/3/17 at 7:25 pm
Posted on 7/3/17 at 7:23 pm to Rekrul
Because he wanted whites to subsidize blacks until the whole system crashed. It was his way of installing reparations.
Popular
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News