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Petition seeks to rename Roosevelt Island, calls FDR ‘racist’

Posted on 8/27/17 at 10:52 pm
Posted by Rakim
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Posted on 8/27/17 at 10:52 pm
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Roosevelt Island should be renamed because of FDR’s “racist” decision to send Japanese-Americans to internment camps during World War II, a new petition demands.

Franklin Delano Roosevelt — who led the nation through the Great Depression and WWII and told Americans they had “nothing to fear but fear itself” — is nevertheless unworthy of having his name on the 147-acre island that is home to 9,700 New Yorkers, those behind the petition claim.

“To add injury to insult, the name was taken away from the Native American people who were slaughtered by the American settlers,” said Margarita L., who started the petition.

The petition, which has a goal of 1,000 signatures, was posted Aug. 19 on the online petition site Care2Petitions.
Posted by TigerOnTheMountain
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Posted on 8/27/17 at 10:55 pm to
FDR wasn't a racist. He was the beginning of the nanny state, though. Somehow I think those calling for his removal don't understand that.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
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Posted on 8/27/17 at 10:55 pm to
Well, ALMOST NONE of the new deal programs were available to blacks, so he sorta was....
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 8/27/17 at 10:56 pm to
Liberals eating their own.
Posted by SoulGlo
Shinin' Through
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Posted on 8/27/17 at 10:56 pm to
Yes, he was racist. Wilson was even more racist.
Posted by Pelican fan99
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Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 8/27/17 at 10:56 pm to
By the time this is all over this country will have no history left. Obama will be the founding father of America at this rate and anything before him will be racist and cast aside
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Posted by funnystuff
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 8/27/17 at 10:59 pm to
The petition's goal is to get 1000 signatures. In a country of 330 million.

Yea, some dumb fricks exist in our country. But let's not mistake the fringe for the norm. This sort of nonsense petition doesn't deserve to be spread, even in mockery.
Posted by Pecker
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Posted on 8/27/17 at 11:00 pm to
FDR absolutely was a racist
Posted by Rakim
Member since Nov 2015
9954 posts
Posted on 8/27/17 at 11:04 pm to
Taking out a liberal icon like FDR is exactly what you have to do to slow these freaks down.
Posted by larry289
Holiday Island, AR
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 8/27/17 at 11:09 pm to
They all seem to be democrats??
Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
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Posted on 8/27/17 at 11:39 pm to
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By the time this is all over this country will have no history left. Obama will be the founding father of America at this rate and anything before him will be racist and cast aside
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According to the Sima Qian's Records of the Grand Historian (Shiji), after Qin Shi Huangdi, the first emperor of China, unified China in 221 BC, his chancellor Li Si suggested suppressing intellectual discourse to unify thought and political opinion.

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Chancellor Li Si Said: "I, your servant, propose that all historians' records other than those of Qin's be burned. With the exception of the academics whose duty includes possessing books, if anyone under heaven has copies of the Shi Jing [Classic of Poetry], the Shujing [Classic of History], or the writings of the hundred schools of philosophy, they shall deliver them (the books) to the governor or the commandant for burning. Anyone who dares to discuss the Shi Jing or the Classic of History shall be publicly executed. Anyone who uses history to criticize the present shall have his family executed. Any official who sees the violations but fails to report them is equally guilty. Anyone who has failed to burn the books after thirty days of this announcement shall be subjected to tattooing and be sent to build the Great Wall. The books that have exemption are those on medicine, divination, agriculture, and forestry. Those who have interest in laws shall instead study from officials."[a]
—Shiji Chapter 6. "The Basic Annals of the First Emperor of Qin" thirty-fourth year (213 BC)


Posted by Tigerbait357
Member since Jun 2011
67941 posts
Posted on 8/27/17 at 11:43 pm to
What isn't considered racist today just curious, it seems like everything is considered offensive in some way, and that we must get rid of it
Posted by TigerOnTheMountain
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Posted on 8/27/17 at 11:47 pm to
No he wasn't. FDR was a realist when it came to cultural differences between races.
Posted by Rakim
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 8/27/17 at 11:57 pm to
https://www.khanacademy.org/humanities/us-history/rise-to-world-power/us-wwii/a/japanese-internment

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Overview

President Franklin Roosevelt’s Executive Order 9066 resulted in the relocation of 112,000 Japanese Americans living on the West Coast into internment camps during the Second World War.

Japanese Americans sold their businesses and houses for a fraction of their value before being sent to the camps. In the process, they lost their livelihoods and much of their lifesavings.

In Korematsu v. United States (1944) the Supreme Court upheld the constitutionality of internment. In 1988, the United States issued an official apology for internment and compensated survivors.

Executive Order 9066

In February 1942, President Franklin Roosevelt issued Executive Order 9066, which authorized the Secretary of War to declare certain areas within the United State as military zones, and to restrict access to those areas on the grounds of wartime military necessity. The president’s order came less than three months after Japan’s attack on Pearl Harbor, amid concerns that Japanese American citizens might pose a threat to national security. These concerns were driven by public hysteria grounded in racism and false reports of sabotage and collaboration with the enemy.

Under the Executive Order, some 112,000 Japanese Americans—79,000 of whom were American citizens—were removed from the West Coast and placed into ten internment camps located in remote areas. Japanese Americans were given only a few days' notice to report for internment, and many had to sell their homes and businesses for much less than they were worth. In so doing, they lost much of what they had accrued in the course of their lives.

The camps—like the one at Manzanar, California, located at the foot of the Sierra Nevada mountains—were surrounded by fences, barbed wire, guard towers, searchlights and machine guns. Families incarcerated in the camps lived in uninsulated cabins or converted stables. They occupied their enforced idleness by organizing schools and camp newspapers, by running barber or beauty shops, and more. A small number were cleared for work outside the camps.


Posted by cheesesteak501
The South
Member since Mar 2014
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Posted on 8/27/17 at 11:59 pm to
Everybody was a racist back then
Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
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Posted on 8/28/17 at 12:04 am to
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Everybody was a racist back then
Everybody must be dug up and reburied somewhere else
Posted by Rakim
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 8/28/17 at 12:08 am to
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In addition to making Jesse Owens lose face in front of all other Olympic athletes, ol' Franky also signed Executive Order 9066, the act that determined a group of Americans should be imprisoned because of their race

When it came to appointing a new supreme court justice, PotUS Roosevelt appointed former KKK member Hugo Black. When Hugo was a senator in Alabama he infamously filibustered an anti-lynching bill. Hugo also wrote positively of Roosevelt in his memoirs, specifically pointing out that while the KKK was increasingly being frowned upon by the American public, Roosevelt considered that a positive on his part:

"[Roosevelt's] best friends and supporters he had in the state of Georgia were strong members of that organization."
Wrong on Race: The Democratic Party's Buried Past. New York: Palgrave MacMillan. Kindle locations 2636 -- 2657.

Hugo Black would go on to repay FDR with the Korematsu v. United States case that defended the constitutionality of imprisoning people of Japanese descent in America. Though Black also approved of desegregating American schools he warned that the peaceful Civil Rights movement would give way to violence if Black Americans were not kept under control:

“Unfortunately there are some who think that Negroes should have special privileges under the law.”
-Newman,Hugo Black p. 550

Ironically Hugo Black saw himself as a defender of the 1st amendment (free speech) in America, he just thought that non-European Americans were 'abusing' it in their Civil Rights movement.

When a guy uses RACE as a component in imprisoning people, then talks about how his good buddies are KKK members to a former KKK member he's appointing as a supreme court justice, yeah you can call him a racist.

The Sphinx - sculpture at the FDR presidential library

That said, on to the anecdote: in "Devil in the Grove", there's an anecdote recounted by a young Thurgood Marshall:

Attorney General Francis Biddle phoned FDR to discuss the NAACP's involvement in a race case in Virginia. At Biddle's instruction, Marshall picked up an extension to listen in, only to hear FDR exclaim, "I warned you not to call me again about any of Eleanor's ****s. Call me one more time and you are fired."

Posted by Breesus
House of the Rising Sun
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 8/28/17 at 12:09 am to
Awesome. This should work well actually. Let's go ahead and end all entitlement and welfare programs created during FDRs tenure.
Posted by Aubie Spr96
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Member since Dec 2009
41165 posts
Posted on 8/28/17 at 12:11 am to
I knew if this wet on long enough they'd finally get to one I could get behind. Just not for the racist reason and more because FDR was a socialist.
Posted by Rakim
Member since Nov 2015
9954 posts
Posted on 8/28/17 at 12:11 am to
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Roosevelt for mostly political reasons which were driven by low-calorie anti-semitism refused to allow the passengers (all Jewish) on the ship St Louis refuge in the United States. Every other country did the same so the ship had to go back to France and most of the passengers ultimately perished at the hands of the Nazis.


I mean, come on folks.
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