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Paypal is in on limiting alternative Covid Treatments

Posted on 1/26/22 at 1:46 pm
Posted by jp4lsu
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 1/26/22 at 1:46 pm
I haven't come across the positive benefits of NAC (n-acetyl cysteine) or seen info on it. A friend's wife is nurse practitioner and he recommended it for me and my wife because we have the China Virus.

He then told me that you used to easily get it on Amazon one day and then it was gone from Amazon the next.
Also CVS and Walmart don't keep it in the store now. So I went to The Vitamin Shoppe Website. I added it to cart and a message appeared saying that Paypal can not be used to purchase this product.

Vitamin Shoppe Cart

This is unreal, what kind of tyranny is this. So if you want to purchase an immune system boosting amino acids to stay healthy and help fight off sickness (covid or not), you aren't allowed to via Paypal, CVS, Walmart, etc?
Posted by dcbl
Good guys wear white hats.
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 1/26/22 at 1:48 pm to
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This is unreal, what kind of tyranny is this. So if you want to purchase an immune system boosting amino acids to stay healthy and help fight off sickness (covid or not), you aren't allowed to via Paypal, CVS, Walmart, etc?
we are dealing with a concerted effort to control us and seize power
Posted by crash1211
Houma
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 1/26/22 at 1:49 pm to
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Paypal can not be used to purchase this product.


That's when Paypal would no longer be used to purchase any product if it would have happened to me.
Posted by Mizooag94
Hillbillyville, MO
Member since Sep 2018
1636 posts
Posted on 1/26/22 at 1:59 pm to
I have been taking NAC since before covid. I noticed Amazon dropped it and just got it on ebay.
Posted by imageauto
Member since Apr 2020
145 posts
Posted on 1/26/22 at 2:02 pm to
I ran into the same thing a couple weeks ago. Wound up getting it from a seller on ebay. What a crock of crap!
BTW NAC is a very good supplement.
Posted by Bistineaubengal
Member since Aug 2008
797 posts
Posted on 1/26/22 at 2:04 pm to
I hate ordering online and just to put more info out there..

Lately Sprouts has been getting more NAC products in. I have also found it at Drug Emporium with much better prices.

Posted by Mickey Goldmill
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Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 1/26/22 at 2:05 pm to
This isn't a Paypal thing. The FDA said last summer NAC is classified as a drug rather than a supplement and can't legally be sold/marketed as a supplement.

ETA: June 2020 is when the FDA issued their warning.
This post was edited on 1/26/22 at 2:27 pm
Posted by Pookers
Member since Jun 2021
980 posts
Posted on 1/26/22 at 2:08 pm to
Then why can I buy NAC online with my credit card but not paypal?
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
23045 posts
Posted on 1/26/22 at 2:11 pm to
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Then why can I buy NAC online with my credit card but not paypal?



Well I guess I should have rephrased. Paypal isn't saying "lets see if we can limit some covid treatments from being purchased." They are following with what the FDA has put out to shield themselves from liability. Same thing with many other major companies.
Posted by jp4lsu
Member since Sep 2016
4964 posts
Posted on 1/26/22 at 2:15 pm to
You're missing the forest for the trees Mickey. Don't be so blind.
Why would FDA all of a sudden change the classification of this product?
A product that has been used to boost immune systems and help people ward off sickness?
We can buy aspirin, tylenol, and all sorts of drugs off amazon. These will do much damage to livers if taken too often. Paypal is ok with this.

This is medical tyranny and the FDA wanted to limit any and all alternatives as much as possible in order to funnel everyone to a vaccine and have control over our choices.
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
23045 posts
Posted on 1/26/22 at 2:21 pm to
The FDA released their warning about labeling NAC as a supplement back in July of 2020 - months before we even had a vaccine.
Posted by jp4lsu
Member since Sep 2016
4964 posts
Posted on 1/26/22 at 2:32 pm to
Because they didn't want any alternative treatments that could potentially show success for the bulk of the population. If there was anything showing success people would be less likely to get the vax and they wanted everyone getting a vax.
How is this good science in any shape or form? It is medical tyranny.
The FDA forcing doctors to give no treatments for positive cases other than go to the hospital if your O2 levels drop. That is not science but tyranny.
This post was edited on 1/26/22 at 3:38 pm
Posted by Lieutenant Dan
Euthanasia, USA
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 1/26/22 at 2:35 pm to
Oh so now FDA clearance matters?


Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
23045 posts
Posted on 1/26/22 at 2:38 pm to
You're jumping to a lot of conclusions based on a decision on a single "supplement" that was made in July 2020.

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The FDA forcing doctors to give no treatments for positive cases other than go to the hospital if your O2 levels drop. That is not science by tyranny.



You can still get NAC by prescription. Go to your PCP and ask for it.
Posted by QboveTopSecret
America
Member since Feb 2018
3238 posts
Posted on 1/26/22 at 2:46 pm to
They are allowing everyone to just sell down their stockpiles.

I bought 500g 17.6 oz from bulk supplements when I heard the news. Will last me years the way I take it.

Great for the lungs and infections.
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
23045 posts
Posted on 1/26/22 at 2:54 pm to
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They are allowing everyone to just sell down their stockpiles.



I just read that the FDA is considering changing their opinion as well. They are going through the process now of looking into it. Sounds like the main issue is what came first: "Approved drug" or "Supplement"

Sounds silly for it to come down to that, but I believe that's the main issue according to the FDA.
Posted by QboveTopSecret
America
Member since Feb 2018
3238 posts
Posted on 1/26/22 at 3:35 pm to

Supplement leaders are adamant about defending the industry from FDA’s turn on NAC because FDA’s actions could set a dangerous precedent in the supplements industry for years to come.

McGuffin says, “If FDA bans NAC by retroactively applying the drug exclusion clause, there is concern that the agency could do the same with any vitamin, mineral, or herb that has ever been the subject of any formal drug investigation.”

Daniel Fabricant, PhD, NPA’s CEO and president, tells Nutritional Outlook, “It’s incredibly concerning if FDA can retroactively apply the drug exclusion clause.

In August 2021, Natural Products Insider reported that U.S. Senator Michael Lee (R-UT) requested a FDA hearing on the NAC issue but was denied.13 Says Fabricant, “When you have not one, but two members of Congress, request more information about NAC, and the agency ignores their questions, it’s a sign of disrespect.

Dietary supplement associations will continue fighting FDA on the matter this year. Says Olsen, “CRN doesn’t consider this a settled battle while the agency continues to deliberate as to what their response will be.”

In the meantime, “We’ll probably see more actions taking place in the fight over NAC,” says Fabricant.

It’s a fight worth having, he and the others say. “This issue is more important than just NAC,” says Fabricant. “FDA’s action sets a dangerous precedent which presents a real and present danger for the dietary supplement industry.”

Nutritionaloutlook
Posted by LSUAngelHere1
Watson
Member since Jan 2018
8131 posts
Posted on 1/26/22 at 3:36 pm to
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Well I guess I should have rephrased. Paypal isn't saying "lets see if we can limit some covid treatments from being purchased." They are following with what the FDA has put out to shield themselves from liability. Same thing with many other major companies.

That mental gymnastics must be exhausting
Posted by jp4lsu
Member since Sep 2016
4964 posts
Posted on 1/26/22 at 3:42 pm to
You are blind if you can't see the orchestration and then the shear tyranny of the feds trying to force a vax on every American.
I'm not basing this on a single suspicious re-classification of NAC, but the same goes for HCQ and ivermectin, not too mention other protocols that found success around the world.

All of this was to funnel everybody into a vaccine.
Posted by Adama
BSG
Member since Oct 2014
122 posts
Posted on 1/26/22 at 3:43 pm to
At this point, the FDA, CDC, NIH, NIAID, etc. have no credibility.
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