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Part 1 Nursing Homes: Inside Louisiana system that values profits over patients

Posted on 4/30/17 at 10:19 pm
Posted by Rakim
Member since Nov 2015
9954 posts
Posted on 4/30/17 at 10:19 pm
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Louisiana going wrong direction, spending more on nursing homes as rest of nation funds alternatives to institutionalization

State nursing homes frequently ranked 50th in the nation

Nursing homes have seen millions in increased funding, as hospitals, higher education, prisons see budgets slashed

30 percent fewer home and community based providers than 2012 because of budget cuts and tighter restrictions


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Louisiana's failure to properly support home- and community-based programs is unusual. It also puts the state at risk of violating federal laws that protect the civil rights of the state's most vulnerable people.

Virtually every other state has been investing an increasing share of taxpayer dollars into home- and community-based health care. Such programs are widely preferred by people who want to live independently — 90 percent of respondents in an AARP survey of Louisiana's voters — and most states have embraced them because they also are much less expensive than nursing homes.

Nationally, "there has been a shift away from institutional spending and institutional participation toward home- and community-based service spending and participation," said Steve Kay, a professor at the University of California, San Francisco's Institute for Health and Aging. "Louisiana is very much an outlier."

The root of the problem is a long list of financial policies and laws in Louisiana that heavily favor nursing homes. These special protections, many of them unique to Louisiana, are a testament to the strength of the state’s nursing home lobby, long a leading source of campaign cash for the state’s politicians.


Just wow!!'

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The funding increases for nursing homes are all the more eye-popping in the context of Louisiana's budget, which has seen year after year of cuts. Over the past eight years, state lawmakers increased funding for nursing homes by $245 million, even as they slashed aid to Louisiana’s universities by $542 million, cut the Taylor Opportunity Program for Students scholarships by $90 million and pared back spending on state prisons by $77 million.


We have to have the sleaziest and most incompetent legislators in the country. Absolutely useless!!!
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67079 posts
Posted on 4/30/17 at 10:23 pm to
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We have to have the sleaziest and most incompetent legislators in the country. Absolutely useless!!!


yup. but no one wants to be accused of "pulling the chord on grandma"
Posted by AllemanWC
Bayou Corne
Member since Jan 2015
945 posts
Posted on 5/1/17 at 7:13 am to
A VERY high percentage of LA nursing homes are owned by spouses or immediate family members of past and current legislators. The system will continue to operate as is does now to pad their pockets. LA Department of Health has been trying to push people out of nursing homes and into home based health care for quite some time. Our legislators are not about to take money out of their own pockets any time soon.
Posted by hashtag
Comfy, AF
Member since Aug 2005
27480 posts
Posted on 5/1/17 at 7:18 am to
Why should responsible tax payers spend money caring for their elderly family members, and then have to spend tax dollars taking care of others elderly family members as well?

Personal and family responsibility needs to be encouraged, not mooching. But, our politicians are crooked. Shocker.
This post was edited on 5/1/17 at 7:20 am
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36025 posts
Posted on 5/1/17 at 8:46 am to
Jindal pulled the plug on needed reforms and now Edwards is dancing around the subject.

We are leaving at least 100 million dollars in potential savings on the table.

For a state that is supposedly strapped for cash, this reform seems like low hanging fruit, but not in La. Lobbyists have bought the votes and reform won't happen.

Meanwhile Edwards has raised taxes 1.3 Billion dollars, and now wants another 400 million to spend on his agenda. We can't afford what we have now, but all they want to do is tax and spend. They torpedoed real reforms and will continue to do the more of the same.
Posted by lsufan1971
Zachary
Member since Nov 2003
18250 posts
Posted on 5/1/17 at 8:48 am to
JBE has collected 720K from nursing home lobbyist....that honor code doe



Advocate story today
This post was edited on 5/1/17 at 8:55 am
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
23965 posts
Posted on 5/1/17 at 8:51 am to
For all you young attorneys out there this is a growth industry.
Facility negligence is rampant.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
56276 posts
Posted on 5/1/17 at 9:06 am to
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or all you young attorneys out there this is a growth industry.
Facility negligence is rampant.


you think there is a shortage of lawyers willing to sue a nursing home?
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
56276 posts
Posted on 5/1/17 at 9:15 am to
we live in a State that ranks dead last or damn near it in almost every chronic disease process, most notably diabetes, heart disease, and cancer. We are damn near last in insured population.

What do we expect to happen to spending in nursing homes? People are living longer with more and more costs associated with their care...costs that the nursing home assumes when they are admitted. We still spend less in nursing home medicaid rates than most everybody else.

If nursing homes are 25% empty, how can it be that the NH lobby is so strong that they are pushing everyone into LTC facilities. Seems the home based programs have more than ample opportunity to show their value.

Home based community care programs are highly valuable, but about 10 years ago they began to be a joke (not HHA and Hospice). Many time hiring the family of patients already living with the patient to be their 'caregiver', regulations were non existent.

Posted by LSU12223
Member since Sep 2016
1482 posts
Posted on 5/1/17 at 10:31 am to
Why is it a bad thing that nursing homes value profits. If they were in the red, then there would be no nursing homes...
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112467 posts
Posted on 5/1/17 at 10:37 am to
NH lawsuits are a big racket. Here in Shreveport there is a team of two female scumbags. One is a nurse and the other is a lawyer. The nurse does an inspection of Home 'A' and makes a list of bad things. The team then contacts the family of a patient and promises them big money.
They sue the NH and settle out of court. The patient, the nurse and the lawyer split the money and move on the NH 'B.'
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
23965 posts
Posted on 5/1/17 at 10:39 am to
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They sue the NH and settle out of court. The patient, the nurse and the lawyer split the money and move on the NH 'B.'



Uninformed as usual, when you go in you can give us first hand info though.
Posted by LSU12223
Member since Sep 2016
1482 posts
Posted on 5/1/17 at 10:40 am to
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NH lawsuits are a big racket. Here in Shreveport there is a team of two female scumbags. One is a nurse and the other is a lawyer. The nurse does an inspection of Home 'A' and makes a list of bad things. The team then contacts the family of a patient and promises them big money.
They sue the NH and settle out of court. The patient, the nurse and the lawyer split the money and move on the NH 'B.'

Again, if the money is not flowing in, then how does the nursing home stay open. When owning a business the most important thing is to be profitable.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112467 posts
Posted on 5/1/17 at 10:41 am to
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Uninformed as usual, when you go in you can give us first hand info though.


Nope, totally informed. I know the lawyer. She told me what she does.
I know another lawyer in Idaho who was faced with the same scam there when she was the manager of a NH. Instead of hiring expensive lawyers her husband took over while she got her law degree. Now she defends herself for free and nobody is suing her.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112467 posts
Posted on 5/1/17 at 10:43 am to
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Again, if the money is not flowing in, then how does the nursing home stay open


It's pretty simple. The business factors the cost of litigation into their prices. So, the lawyers are taking money from your grandma, not the nursing home.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422436 posts
Posted on 5/1/17 at 10:45 am to
nursing home tomfoolery is what brought down Tigerdroppings' most famous judge-poster
Posted by LSU12223
Member since Sep 2016
1482 posts
Posted on 5/1/17 at 10:46 am to
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It's pretty simple. The business factors the cost of litigation into their prices. So, the lawyers are taking money from your grandma, not the nursing home.


ok now i see the issue and that is wrong.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112617 posts
Posted on 5/1/17 at 10:48 am to
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112617 posts
Posted on 5/1/17 at 10:50 am to
No lawyer would tell you that
Posted by InTheDetails
Real, USA
Member since Jul 2014
774 posts
Posted on 5/1/17 at 10:51 am to
The old and needy are moochers?
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