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Over half of hate crimes in US go unreported, report says

Posted on 6/29/17 at 9:09 am
Posted by DawgfaninCa
San Francisco, California
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Posted on 6/29/17 at 9:09 am
How can they know that if the hate crimes go unreported?

Here's the article.

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The majority of hate crimes experienced by U.S. residents over a 12-year period were not reported to police, according to a new federal report released Thursday that stoked advocates' concerns about ongoing tensions between law enforcement and black and Latino communities.

More than half of the 250,000 hate crimes that took place each year between 2004 and 2015 went unreported to law enforcement for a variety of reasons, according to a special report on hate crimes from the Bureau of Justice Statistics. Hate crimes were most often not reported because they were handled some other way, the report said. But people also did not come forward because they didn't feel it was important or that police would help, according to the report.


Based on a survey of households, the report is one of several studies that aim to quantify hate crimes. Its release comes as the Justice Department convenes a meeting on Thursday with local law enforcement officials and experts to discuss hate crimes, including a lack of solid data on the problem nationwide. Attorney General Jeff Session is scheduled to speak.

The new survey shows the limits of hate crime reporting, said Brian Levin, director of the Center for the Study of Hate and Extremism, California State University.

"Many victims don't report hate crimes because of personal and institutional reasons," Levin said. For example, some Latino immigrants may be reluctant to call police after an apparent hate crime for fear of deportation, he said.

Advocates fear that problem is worsening as the Trump administration ramps up immigration enforcement.


Posted by tiger7166
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2007
2616 posts
Posted on 6/29/17 at 9:11 am to
More than half the hate crimes in this country go undefined
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
35952 posts
Posted on 6/29/17 at 9:13 am to
More than half the hate crimes in the U.S. are false flags since Trump was elected.
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
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Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 6/29/17 at 9:14 am to
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More than half the hate crimes in this country go undefined


^ This is the truth but doesn't fit certain agendas.
Posted by Erin Go Bragh
Beyond the Pale
Member since Dec 2007
14916 posts
Posted on 6/29/17 at 9:15 am to
You have to first speculate on the motivation of the crime and then speculate on the reason it wasn't reported for this report to have any significance.

Posted by TigerChief10
Member since Dec 2012
10858 posts
Posted on 6/29/17 at 9:15 am to
Most of them probably towards white people who are secure enough that being offended doesn't warrant making a huge scene
Posted by ShoeBang
Member since May 2012
19348 posts
Posted on 6/29/17 at 9:16 am to
99.9999999999999999999999999999999% of women on the planet want to sleep with me, they just don't say anything publicly, a new report states.
Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
Top secret lab
Member since Feb 2004
52833 posts
Posted on 6/29/17 at 9:18 am to
73.29% of all statistics are made up
Posted by skrayper
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Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 6/29/17 at 9:18 am to
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How can they know that if the hate crimes go unreported?


It literally says as much in your excerpt:

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Based on a survey of households
Posted by DawgfaninCa
San Francisco, California
Member since Sep 2012
20092 posts
Posted on 6/29/17 at 9:20 am to
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More than half the hate crimes in this country go undefined


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This is the truth but doesn't fit certain agendas.


Be specific.

What agendas are you talking about?
Posted by Sidicous
Middle of Nowhere
Member since Aug 2015
17127 posts
Posted on 6/29/17 at 9:28 am to
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You have to first speculate on the motivation of the crime and then speculate on the reason it wasn't reported for this report to have any significance.


Sooo, kinda like all CNN broadcasts then?
Posted by DawgfaninCa
San Francisco, California
Member since Sep 2012
20092 posts
Posted on 6/29/17 at 9:30 am to
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How can they know that if the hate crimes go unreported?


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It literally says as much in your excerpt


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Based on a survey of households


Meh, how do you know the people in the survey are telling the truth?

Their opinion of what happened to them is a one-sided purely subjective viewpoint of what occurred.

Besides, if they are illegal aliens then they won't report any crimes that happen to them.

That's one of the repercussions or consequences that may occur as a result of them violating our immigration laws.

Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89480 posts
Posted on 6/29/17 at 9:40 am to
Made up report with made up statistics about made up crimes.

There is no such thing as a "hate" crime. Or if there is, it's as unconstitutional as "separate, but equal" has been deemed to be.

There is no way to reconcile "hate" crime legislation with the First Amendment. I can say whatever I want - it's when I "do" something then it becomes a crime.

Use my speech and opinions to try to help a judge or jury infer my motive? Sure. Using my speech and opinions to make something illegal "more" illegal or worsen my punishment? Utter bullshite and it is only PC culture that has allowed it to continue.

Take James Byrd's murderers: I don't give a flying frick why they killed him. I don't care if it was because he was black, walking on the wrong side of the street or wearing a Colorado Rockies ballcap. Put those animals down and be done with it.

We don't need to inquire to the specifics of evil men's souls, IMHO.
This post was edited on 6/29/17 at 9:42 am
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 6/29/17 at 9:40 am to
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hate crimes


I truly loathe this terminology.
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Member since Dec 2006
89480 posts
Posted on 6/29/17 at 9:44 am to
It also reinforces the notion that blacks, gays, women, other minorities, etc., are inferior/require special protection and should be treated "differently" under the law.

After the XIVth Amendment, I just don't think we can handle those contradictions. We either have equal rights for everyone, or we don't. If we don't, we know where that leads.



Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
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Posted on 6/29/17 at 9:46 am to
Agreed.
Posted by TX Tiger
at home
Member since Jan 2004
35632 posts
Posted on 6/29/17 at 9:48 am to
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Over half of hate crimes in US go unreported, report says

Don't worry, if a Muslim is involved it will surely be reported and all over the news.
Posted by skrayper
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Posted on 6/29/17 at 9:52 am to
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Meh, how do you know the people in the survey are telling the truth?


Well, if we just assume anything we don't agree with is a lie, then what's the point in debating it? Sounds like the presumption is that everyone is lying about everything at all times.

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Besides, if they are illegal aliens then they won't report any crimes that happen to them.


Pretty sure you just reiterated the point being made by the survey.

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That's one of the repercussions or consequences that may occur as a result of them violating our immigration laws.


I don't disagree, I'm just pointing out the point of the survey.
Posted by DawgfaninCa
San Francisco, California
Member since Sep 2012
20092 posts
Posted on 6/29/17 at 9:55 am to
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We either have equal rights for everyone, or we don't. If we don't, we know where that leads


Yeah, it's "Animal Farm".
Posted by DawgfaninCa
San Francisco, California
Member since Sep 2012
20092 posts
Posted on 6/29/17 at 10:00 am to
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Meh, how do you know the people in the survey are telling the truth?


quote:

Well, if we just assume anything we don't agree with is a lie, then what's the point in debating it? Sounds like the presumption is that everyone is lying about everything at all times.


We can certainly assume a percentage of them are lying.

It's just a question of what percentage are lying.

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