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re: Our President doesn't think the Terrorsit will make it to GITMO

Posted on 11/2/17 at 8:26 am to
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
73537 posts
Posted on 11/2/17 at 8:26 am to
Maybe he should accidentally get killed in a hit and run accident.
Posted by Tigerlaff
FIGHTING out of the Carencro Sonic
Member since Jan 2010
20884 posts
Posted on 11/2/17 at 8:27 am to
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I feel like you should forfeit all of your rights the moment you get charged with an act of terror.



You trust every justice department from now until the end of time to wield that kind of power? It would eventually become a new Court of Star Chamber.
Posted by Champagne
Already Conquered USA.
Member since Oct 2007
48441 posts
Posted on 11/2/17 at 8:27 am to
MTs don't afford the full panoply of US Const rights to unlawful enemy combatants. MTs were ruled Constitutional.

So, there IS a mechanism.

Take care, bro! Have fun in federal criminal court in Manhattan with all of the Jihadis.

Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
147141 posts
Posted on 11/2/17 at 8:27 am to
He can join the fort hood shooter on death row @ Leavenworth.

I think Bergdahl's trial ends today. Maybe he will get beyond life in prison and will get the the death penalty; and he can join Nidal Hasan the POS who in court pledged terrorism and asked to be a martyr-- who infiltrated our military as a terrorist.
Posted by Champagne
Already Conquered USA.
Member since Oct 2007
48441 posts
Posted on 11/2/17 at 8:40 am to
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and when he is still convicted and sentenced to death after and fair and open trial, let’s remember we still have the greatest and fairest justice system in the world. Process over politics.


OK take care, bro. Have fun with all of the Jihadis in federal criminal court in Manhattan.
Posted by skrayper
21-0 Asterisk Drive
Member since Nov 2012
30917 posts
Posted on 11/2/17 at 8:41 am to
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MTs don't afford the full panoply of US Const rights to unlawful enemy combatants. MTs were ruled Constitutional.


Military tribunals are Constitutional. Admittedly, they slipped my mind. That said, it does not come into play until the CSRT reviews the case.

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Take care, bro! Have fun in federal criminal court in Manhattan with all of the Jihadis.


A working knowledge of the Constitution makes me a terrorist? Weird.
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
80319 posts
Posted on 11/2/17 at 8:47 am to
?

We’ve prosecuted jihadis before. We’re now prosecuting the biggest drug lord in the world.

It’s a show of American strength that we just shuffle these guys in through our system. No special tribunals or special procedures because what you did is not special. It violated federal law and you’ll get treated just like any other common criminal who violates federal law.
Posted by Champagne
Already Conquered USA.
Member since Oct 2007
48441 posts
Posted on 11/2/17 at 8:50 am to
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A working knowledge of the Constitution makes me a terrorist? Weird.


If you had a working knowledge of the Constitution, wouldn't you have had in mind how MTs fit into that Constitution?

Just asking because I want to learn.

Besides, nobody tried to insinuate that you are a Jihadi. Try not to have so many emotions because they cloud reason.

Take care, bro ! Have fun in federal criminal court prosecuting all of the Jihadis as though they were regular american street criminals.

Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32966 posts
Posted on 11/2/17 at 8:51 am to
There's a big difference between Mirandizing someone arrested in the US versus Mirandizing captured fighters in Afghanistan and Iraq, which the Obama administration was going. The former I tend to be okay with, especially if they are in the US on legal visas. The latter is a very big problem, you're essentially extending constitutional protections to non-citizens engaged in active warfare against the US on foreign soil.
Posted by MrCarton
Paradise Valley, MT
Member since Dec 2009
20231 posts
Posted on 11/2/17 at 8:53 am to
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feel like you should forfeit all of your rights the moment you get charged with an act of terror.



Well that's a pretty stupid feeling.
Posted by RandySavage
Member since May 2012
30880 posts
Posted on 11/2/17 at 8:56 am to
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let’s remember we still have the greatest and fairest justice system in the world.


If that's true that's really sad. The red tape in our justice system is beyond laughable.
Posted by Hog Zealot
On the Flats
Member since Mar 2012
1628 posts
Posted on 11/2/17 at 8:59 am to
Maybe a full syringe of pig blood or bacon grease just before they administer the death penalty for good measure on those virgins.
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
80319 posts
Posted on 11/2/17 at 9:01 am to
Better a guilty man go free than an innocent man be locked up.

Downvote away, but that’s one of the cornerstones of due process and Western liberalism.
This post was edited on 11/2/17 at 9:02 am
Posted by TX Tiger
at home
Member since Jan 2004
35657 posts
Posted on 11/2/17 at 9:04 am to
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Most of us are quite okay with that outcome after he suffers tremendously from interrogations, but not sure I like the POTUS tweeting that.



Trump doesn't tweet as the president. He tweets from the POV of the average everyday American. Accurately too
Ummm, no. He tweets for Drama Queens hell bent on dragging this country to full idiocracy.
Posted by SlapahoeTribe
Tiger Nation
Member since Jul 2012
12118 posts
Posted on 11/2/17 at 9:20 am to
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feel like you should forfeit all of your rights the moment you get charged with an act of terror.

I’m torn on the subject.

I feel like US citizens should always be afforded all of their rights and tried by civilian courts for any crimes committed on US territory. Members of the armed services who commit “military” crimes and any crime on military land should be tried in military courts.

I also think there should be a mechanism by which it could be determined that an action (like joining a military of a nation at war with the US) would “renounce” your citizenship. This would effectively make you, in the eyes of the law, a combatant of the US; the military courts could then handle you accordingly.

Perhaps in this case (or in the case of the Boston bomber, etc.) there would be a hearing to determine the terrorist’s affiliation. If this court decides he’s a full citizen then he gets tried the same as anyone else; if the court determined he’s not a citizen then he’s handed over to the military.

Honestly I see opportunities for corruption no matter how we go about it - corruption in the vain of activist judges, and in the vain of an overzealous prosecution.
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