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Only 29% of Americans believe a bakery should be prosecuted for refusing to make lgbt cake
Posted on 7/2/17 at 3:25 pm
Posted on 7/2/17 at 3:25 pm
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Very interested in seeing how the SCOTUS rules
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A Rasmussen poll finds 57 percent of likely U.S. voters are upholding a Colorado baker’s right to refuse to provide a cake for a same-sex wedding.
According to the poll, only 29 percent of respondents say the baker should be prosecuted for discrimination, while 14 percent are undecided.
The survey of 1,000 likely voters was conducted on June 26-27, 2017. The margin of sampling error is +/- 3 percentage points with a 95 percent level of confidence.
The poll’s results are revealed as the U.S. Supreme Court has announced it will hear the case of bakery owner Jack Phillips, who, due to his religious beliefs, would not provide a wedding cake in 2012 for David Mullins and Charlie Craig, who said they were marrying in Massachusetts. Phillips told the men he would gladly provide other baked goods for them but could not make a cake that promotes a same-sex wedding ceremony. Subsequently, Mullins and Craig filed a discrimination complaint against him.
Very interested in seeing how the SCOTUS rules
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Posted on 7/2/17 at 3:26 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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29% of Americans
I'm kinda surprised it's that high.
Posted on 7/2/17 at 3:28 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
First they came for the bakers, but I was not a baker so I didn't protest
Posted on 7/2/17 at 3:29 pm to EKG
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I'm kinda concerned it's that high.
Fify
Posted on 7/2/17 at 3:29 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
oh so now we like polls again? ive been told over and over again that theyre fake news.
Posted on 7/2/17 at 3:30 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
I think persons and businesses should be able to discriminate against whoever they want for whatever reason. With that said, under the current state of constitutional law, I have a hard time envisioning the Court upholding the right to discriminate in a business setting.
Posted on 7/2/17 at 3:32 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
A business should be able to refuse service at their own discretion,however,I think it would be smarter to take the money,make the cake,make sure it's the worst cake ever.
Posted on 7/2/17 at 3:34 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
I.e. 29 percent of the country are fascists
Posted on 7/2/17 at 3:34 pm to Joshjrn
Nobody should be forced to do anything they don't want to do. You want to fight back? Use the free market to put them out of business by not doing business with them.
Posted on 7/2/17 at 3:35 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
I wonder why Wapo hasn't done a poll with this question.
Posted on 7/2/17 at 3:36 pm to Joshjrn
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With that said, under the current state of constitutional law, I have a hard time envisioning the Court upholding the right to discriminate in a business setting.
The case isn't about not serving gays because they're gay, but not serving a cake for a gay wedding since gay weddings are against their moral principles. If the baker refused service because of them being gay then that won't pass muster but the question is can you force some one to provide a service to a function against your moral values.
Posted on 7/2/17 at 3:36 pm to Joshjrn
I think the key here is that this baker would still serve cakes to LGBT persons as they should but the government cannot force this baker to design a specific cake to their wishes.
I think SCOTUS will uphold 5-4.
I think SCOTUS will uphold 5-4.
Posted on 7/2/17 at 3:38 pm to auggie
quote:Yep.
A business should be able to refuse service at their own discretion,however,I think it would be smarter to take the money,make the cake,make sure it's the worst cake ever.
If I was the baker, I'd make a cake out of dirt, vinegar, and a moth, and serve it to this couple.
Did anyone actually ask the couple why they couldn't just go somewhere else? I mean, what was so special about this particular bakery?
Posted on 7/2/17 at 3:38 pm to THDAY
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Nobody should be forced to do anything they don't want to do. You want to fight back? Use the free market to put them out of business by not doing business with them.
This. If a business want's to publicly refuse service to gays, or even minorities...they should be free to do so. And suffer the consequences as well.
Posted on 7/2/17 at 3:40 pm to DallasTiger11
I think it's more of a decency issue. Say some family with kids comes in to get a cake, say to celebrate Easter or the 4th of July and they are forced to see the government mandated penis cake for the gay wedding?
Posted on 7/2/17 at 3:40 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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I mean, what was so special about this particular bakery?
I am guessing they were chosen for a certain reason,like having a reputation of being very religious or something.
Posted on 7/2/17 at 3:47 pm to EKG
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29% of Americans
I'm kinda surprised it's that high.
If gays are 10% of the country, and then you have the ANTIFA types and the hard lefts that want to see discrimination in every thing...29% seems about right.
Posted on 7/2/17 at 3:49 pm to MastrShake
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oh so now we like polls again? ive been told over and over again that theyre fake news.
Well, if this one is as far off as the ones predicting a Hillary win, then there will still be a solid majority saying it is wrong to prosecute for that.
Posted on 7/2/17 at 3:51 pm to DawgsLife
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If gays are 10% of the country
I would find that hard to believe.
Maybe that is the reasoning behind making the lesbian, queers, bi-sexual, cross-dresser, transvestites, transgendered all in one grouping.
This post was edited on 7/2/17 at 3:55 pm
Posted on 7/2/17 at 3:52 pm to Kino74
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With that said, under the current state of constitutional law, I have a hard time envisioning the Court upholding the right to discriminate in a business setting.
The case isn't about not serving gays because they're gay, but not serving a cake for a gay wedding since gay weddings are against their moral principles. If the baker refused service because of them being gay then that won't pass muster but the question is can you force some one to provide a service to a function against your moral values.
This is correct. If I am remembering correctly, the bakery had served them before on several occasions. It was the wedding cake that they refused based upon their religion. So they were not refusing based on their sexuality, since they had served them before.
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