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On Moon Griffon both he and his assistant stated they have the votes to pass Obamacare 2.0
Posted on 3/24/17 at 10:07 am
Posted on 3/24/17 at 10:07 am
Just relaying information I heard on the radio.
Saying it is all but a formality later this afternoon.
Hands were greased and shady deals done--just like in any deal maker we the people lose.
I realize the Senate will not pass the bill in it's current form, but the fact they only needed a few days to grease a LOT of holdouts to pass this garbage most conservatives don't want shows the same games are played on both sides (Left/Right).
Saying it is all but a formality later this afternoon.
Hands were greased and shady deals done--just like in any deal maker we the people lose.
I realize the Senate will not pass the bill in it's current form, but the fact they only needed a few days to grease a LOT of holdouts to pass this garbage most conservatives don't want shows the same games are played on both sides (Left/Right).
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Posted on 3/24/17 at 10:34 am to reo45
Well aif Moon and his assistant says it's a did deal it's a done deal. 
Posted on 3/24/17 at 11:32 am to reo45
quote:You really haven't a clue, do you?
just like in any deal maker we the people lose.
YOU LOSE EITHER WAY!
A filibuster-proof Senate saw to that in 2009.
All these guys can now do is work within the limits of reconciliation to begin to unwind the POS. They cannot rewrite the bill and pass it under reconciliation. Hell, it isn't even a certainty insurance coverage mandates can be eliminated IAW Senate rules.
You understand that, right?
Posted on 3/24/17 at 11:38 am to NC_Tigah
I understand that this bill does nothing at all whatsoever to address rising premiums or healthcare costs.
That is all I need to know.
I know that government will NEVER give up the reins of control over anything. It will just transfer from a liberal control to republican control.
This bill, if passed, will never become more than anything but what it already is with Obamacare.
I have family in medicine who know just as much as anyone on here--worked in healthcare for 20 years--that say this bill is a massive failure. Where to begin and end would take us all day to flesh out.
If you believe passing shitty legislation is a 'gain' than so be it. It does absolutely nothing to address healthcare whatsoever. Nothing. Nada. Zero.
That is all I need to know.
I know that government will NEVER give up the reins of control over anything. It will just transfer from a liberal control to republican control.
This bill, if passed, will never become more than anything but what it already is with Obamacare.
I have family in medicine who know just as much as anyone on here--worked in healthcare for 20 years--that say this bill is a massive failure. Where to begin and end would take us all day to flesh out.
If you believe passing shitty legislation is a 'gain' than so be it. It does absolutely nothing to address healthcare whatsoever. Nothing. Nada. Zero.
Posted on 3/24/17 at 11:54 am to reo45
quote:Unfortunately your understanding is ignorant of fact.
I understand that this bill does nothing at all whatsoever to address rising premiums or healthcare costs.
Posted on 3/24/17 at 11:56 am to NC_Tigah
quote:
Unfortunately your understanding is ignorant of fact.
Please inform us how this thing will reduce premiums. Please.
Edit: Crickets...
This post was edited on 3/24/17 at 12:43 pm
Posted on 3/24/17 at 12:01 pm to NC_Tigah
Are you a f'ing idiot?
Man, what is wrong with you?
It DOES nothing to address costs, PERIOD. Nothing whatsoever, at all, ever, can, nada, zilch, zero.
I understand it fully. I live in it. My family is immersed in it. Conversations with prominent conservative surgeons and nurses both in family and outside the family over the years. Yes, I have a very good idea of what will bring down costs and premiums. This bill does nothing for that whatsoever.
I've posted in length on things that needed to be done the last few weeks. I'm done talking about that component.
What they should have done is pass the best piece of freedom/free-market based legislation this country has seen. Sent it to the Senate and let those jokers give us Obamacare and when it burns out and people have had enough they will go vote in the Senators we need to pass the legislation that will work.
Man, what is wrong with you?
It DOES nothing to address costs, PERIOD. Nothing whatsoever, at all, ever, can, nada, zilch, zero.
I understand it fully. I live in it. My family is immersed in it. Conversations with prominent conservative surgeons and nurses both in family and outside the family over the years. Yes, I have a very good idea of what will bring down costs and premiums. This bill does nothing for that whatsoever.
I've posted in length on things that needed to be done the last few weeks. I'm done talking about that component.
What they should have done is pass the best piece of freedom/free-market based legislation this country has seen. Sent it to the Senate and let those jokers give us Obamacare and when it burns out and people have had enough they will go vote in the Senators we need to pass the legislation that will work.
This post was edited on 3/24/17 at 1:06 pm
Posted on 3/24/17 at 4:40 pm to reo45
quote:You got your wish. Congrats!
let those jokers give us Obamacare and when it burns out and people have had enough they will go vote in the Senators we need to pass the legislation that will work.
quote:It repealed Obamacare.
It DOES nothing to address costs, PERIOD.
OBAMACARE IS THE COST!
IT IS UNSUSTAINABLE!
With the ACHA in final form, under reconciliation much of the ACA regulation would have remained. However, public cost of Obama's imposed remaining regs such as preexistings, women's prostate coverage, geriatric men's obstetric coverage, etc. would not any longer have been hidden behind spread-the-wealth-around subsidies. Transparent cost exposure would put us much closer to something that's NEVER HAPPENED . . . . REMOVAL OF AN ENTITLEMENT.
Once the ACHA was in place, interstate competition, negotiated drug pricing, and tort reform were teed up. As policy cost exposure materialized so would further tweaks of the ACHA.
The public's perception is the cost of an Obamacare Policy is only what they pay post-subsidy. They are painfully unaware of the actual price of the policy. Until that stinking chancre gets unroofed, we are stuck. More specifically, our kids are stuck. They are the ones who are going to be saddled with our economic irresponsibility.
Winning!
Every damn one of the "Freedom Caucus" morons should be primaried.
This post was edited on 3/24/17 at 4:46 pm
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