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Ok you Nazis I am in tonight
Posted on 5/13/17 at 1:26 am
Posted on 5/13/17 at 1:26 am
Listening to NPR about group of kids expelled for liking racist post on instagram in California. ( interesting question on first amendment versus school safety etc)
This otherwise intelligent lady calls in and calls the professor that is doing nothing but defending free speech and quoting the law a conservative nut with just an opinion on the first amendment. She then states that lots of other professors believe you have no constitutional right to insult people or make them feel bad and that schools should be safe zones.
I could not fricking believe it. Safe zones trumping the constitution. Are you fricking kidding me?
I think most post here are obnoxious bullshite and often racist and just ignorant beyond belief. But I would die and many many members of family have already died to protect your right to be an idiot a-hole if you desire. Free speech is not about protecting popular speech or that you agree with it is about the opposite.
I support the right of the KKK and neo nazis to match and protest the same as black panthers or BLM. It's not the message that matters but the right to be heard
The far left is as much a clear and present danger to the Country as the far right.
This otherwise intelligent lady calls in and calls the professor that is doing nothing but defending free speech and quoting the law a conservative nut with just an opinion on the first amendment. She then states that lots of other professors believe you have no constitutional right to insult people or make them feel bad and that schools should be safe zones.
I could not fricking believe it. Safe zones trumping the constitution. Are you fricking kidding me?
I think most post here are obnoxious bullshite and often racist and just ignorant beyond belief. But I would die and many many members of family have already died to protect your right to be an idiot a-hole if you desire. Free speech is not about protecting popular speech or that you agree with it is about the opposite.
I support the right of the KKK and neo nazis to match and protest the same as black panthers or BLM. It's not the message that matters but the right to be heard
The far left is as much a clear and present danger to the Country as the far right.
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Posted on 5/13/17 at 1:27 am to TutHillTiger
Let me the first to offer up my downvote for your viewing pleasure.
Posted on 5/13/17 at 2:45 am to TutHillTiger
To be fair the post was more than just a "racist post", it had a black student and teacher with nooses around their necks...
Posted on 5/13/17 at 6:04 am to lsu480
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To be fair the post was more than just a "racist post", it had a black student and teacher with nooses around their necks...
Where in the Constitution does it guaranteed the right to Free Speech, unless you think it's reprehensible?
Posted on 5/13/17 at 6:23 am to TutHillTiger
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But I would die and many many members of family have already died to protect your right
Would prefer you fight rather than just show up and die.
Posted on 5/13/17 at 6:41 am to TutHillTiger
I'm surprised the left hasn't introduced a "Speech Tax" yet.
Posted on 5/13/17 at 6:47 am to SavageOrangeJug
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Where in the Constitution does it guaranteed the right to Free Speech, unless you think it's reprehensible?
It doesn't and I have no opinion on this incident other than he should be honest in his description. Most people will think liking a racist post means they liked a post talking about how criminal the average black person is, how low black IQ's are or how blacks love them some fried chicken...something along those lines.
Liking a post which shows black students and teachers that they see at school, and who see them, on a daily basis being lynched is WAY different. Anyone who is being honest would admit that.
ETA: My reply is based on the assumption you added the comma by "accident", like you added the d after guarantee and capitalized free speech. If you put it there on purpose the answer is the 1st amendment and I don't find free speech reprehensible.
This post was edited on 5/13/17 at 7:01 am
Posted on 5/13/17 at 6:57 am to lsu480
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It doesn't and I have no opinion on this incident other than he should be honest in his description. Most people will think liking a racist post means they liked a post talking about how criminal the average black person is, how low black IQ's are or how blacks love them some fried chicken...something along those lines.
Liking a post which shows black students and teachers that they see at school, and who see them, on a daily basis being lynched is WAY different. Anyone who is being honest would admit that.
Yep. Sounds like a threat, not an opinion,
Posted on 5/13/17 at 7:19 am to Bestbank Tiger
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ep. Sounds like a threat, not an opinion,
Holy shite.
Clicking a thumbs up icon on Facebook is now a threat? Full retard.
Posted on 5/13/17 at 7:36 am to lsu480
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ETA: My reply is based on the assumption you added the comma by "accident", like you added the d after guarantee and capitalized free speech. If you put it there on purpose the answer is the 1st amendment and I don't find free speech reprehensible.
The d is typo.
Free speech was capitalized by the phone and I didn't bother to change it.
Now, about the rest of your bullshite rambling.
A professor at Texas A&M recently called for the killing of White People. He was not disciplined because of "free speech".
You liberals want to pick and choose who is afforded free speech.
The First and Second Amendments are not flexible to the whims of you leftist idiots.
This post was edited on 5/13/17 at 7:37 am
Posted on 5/13/17 at 7:53 am to SavageOrangeJug
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You liberals want to pick and choose who is afforded free speech. The First and Second Amendments are not flexible to the whims of you leftist idiots.
I am the biggest Trump supporter on here and about as far right as one can be. You are having a tough time this morning aren't you? 
Posted on 5/13/17 at 7:55 am to TutHillTiger
You do understand the current administration is actively exploring the possibility of limiting the first amendment?
Educate yourself and know where the true danger lies
Educate yourself and know where the true danger lies
Posted on 5/13/17 at 7:56 am to SavageOrangeJug
The first amendment does not grant one the right to say anything anywhere or to express oneself in any manner at any time.
This post was edited on 5/13/17 at 7:57 am
Posted on 5/13/17 at 7:58 am to lsu480
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I am the biggest Trump supporter on here and about as far right as one can be.
Obviously I am not a follower. Sorry to disappoint you.
No, true right wingers don't compromise the First Amendment no matter who is offended.
You seem to be having a hard time in life. Simple concepts seem to evade you.
Posted on 5/13/17 at 8:10 am to SavageOrangeJug
Show me where I have been against the First Ammendment or been offended in any post I have ever made...I'll wait. All I have said in this thread is the OP should give accurate information since our arguments should be able to stand on their own merit, we don't need to leave out parts of the story in order to make our arguments stronger...that is what liberals do. You want a race war to start ASAP so why wouldn't you want the full info out there so you could support it?
Posted on 5/13/17 at 8:12 am to TutHillTiger
Let me preface that I'm a conservative and MAGA all the way.
Having said that, this is a touchy subject. Liking a racist picture (as it turns out a pic of a black teacher and students with nooses around their necks) is the digital equivalent of shoving a picture in someone's face and laughing. As constitutionally appropriate as the students' actions are, they should have known there might be repercussions and proceeded to toe the line. There are many legal rights that get stripped from a person before they step foot on school property....well maybe not stripped since we live in a free country, but legal and/or academic consequences might ensue.
In short, I agree that the kids have the right to like whatever pictures they want, but a school has the right to discipline its students in whatever fashion they desire. What I was taught in school is that when you're off campus, you continue to represent your school whether you like it or not, and your actions either enhance or tarnish a school's image.
Those kids are dumbasses and I agree with disciplinary action but expulsion is a bit much. I would agree with suspension and quite a few detentions.
Having said that, this is a touchy subject. Liking a racist picture (as it turns out a pic of a black teacher and students with nooses around their necks) is the digital equivalent of shoving a picture in someone's face and laughing. As constitutionally appropriate as the students' actions are, they should have known there might be repercussions and proceeded to toe the line. There are many legal rights that get stripped from a person before they step foot on school property....well maybe not stripped since we live in a free country, but legal and/or academic consequences might ensue.
In short, I agree that the kids have the right to like whatever pictures they want, but a school has the right to discipline its students in whatever fashion they desire. What I was taught in school is that when you're off campus, you continue to represent your school whether you like it or not, and your actions either enhance or tarnish a school's image.
Those kids are dumbasses and I agree with disciplinary action but expulsion is a bit much. I would agree with suspension and quite a few detentions.
Posted on 5/13/17 at 8:17 am to SavageOrangeJug
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Where in the Constitution does it guaranteed the right to Free Speech, unless you think it's reprehensible?
Free Speech protections in public schools are more limited than in the general public. The speech cannot intimidate other students (Tinker v. Des Moines). Not sure about all of the facts in this case but it seems like the school would have the legal ability to take disciplinary action in this case.
Posted on 5/13/17 at 8:41 am to lsu480
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Show me where I have been against the First Ammendment or been offended
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To be fair the post was more than just a "racist post", it had a black student and teacher with nooses around their necks...
To be fair, tough shite.
Words hurt
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