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Posted on 3/15/17 at 3:04 pm to Jjdoc
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The Spectator Index? @spectatorindex
BREAKING: The VVD, Prime Minister Mark Rutte's center-right party, leads with Geert Wilders' PVV party second in exit poll
The Spectator Index? @spectatorindex
BREAKING: The VVD, Prime Minister Mark Rutte's center-right party, leads with Geert Wilders' PVV party second in exit poll
Posted on 3/15/17 at 3:06 pm to joshnorris14
The Spectator Index? @spectatorindex
BREAKING: Prime Minister Mark Rutte set to win 2017 Dutch Federal Election
BREAKING: Prime Minister Mark Rutte set to win 2017 Dutch Federal Election
Posted on 3/15/17 at 3:07 pm to joshnorris14
An exit poll from Ipsos claims that the VVD party of Prime minister Mark Rutte has scored 21 percent of the vote while Geert Wilders' PVV are tied for second place at 13 percent.
Netherlands, Ipsos exit poll:
VVD-ALDE: 21%
CDA-EPP 13%
PVV-ENF 13%
D66-ALDE 13%
GL-G/EFA 11%
SP-LEFT 9%
PvdA-S&D 6%#DutchElection #TK17
Netherlands, Ipsos exit poll:
VVD-ALDE: 21%
CDA-EPP 13%
PVV-ENF 13%
D66-ALDE 13%
GL-G/EFA 11%
SP-LEFT 9%
PvdA-S&D 6%#DutchElection #TK17
Posted on 3/15/17 at 3:07 pm to joshnorris14
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The Spectator Index? @spectatorindex
BREAKING: Party of right-wing Geert Wilders set to win fewer seats than anticipated
The Spectator Index? @spectatorindex
BREAKING: Party of right-wing Geert Wilders set to win fewer seats than anticipated
Posted on 3/15/17 at 3:09 pm to joshnorris14
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BREAKING: Party of right-wing Geert Wilders set to win fewer seats than anticipated
Yeah he tanked in the last week. I don't know what happened, but I don't expect him to win.
Posted on 3/15/17 at 3:11 pm to cokebottleag
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Netherlands, Wilders' party PVV (ENF) results: 2006: 5.9% 2010: 15.4% 2012: 10.1% 2017: 12.6%*
Gained ground though
Posted on 3/15/17 at 3:20 pm to SirWinston
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Trump isn't so different - he's easily the 2nd most liberal president we've ever had
Well, that's crap.
Posted on 3/15/17 at 3:23 pm to Jjdoc
It's anecdotal, but in reading/listening to foreign news services' interviews of Dutch citizens this week and last, there was a lot of (obviously summarizing) "I'm not supporting Wilders but I think he's on to something...I'm just not quite buying it overall yet."
Plus I think there is too much EU fondness.
Plus I think there is too much EU fondness.
Posted on 3/15/17 at 3:24 pm to SirWinston
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Our hero
Posted on 3/15/17 at 3:24 pm to Ted2010
Poor joshie
Posted on 3/15/17 at 3:28 pm to Pettifogger
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Plus I think there is too much EU fondness.
They're not going to have that four years from now but by then it will be too late as the current immigration crisis is not sustainable for another four years and the establishment will double down on their bullshite to make sure someone like Wilders never challenges them again.
They had a chance for reforms and to gain control of their borders peacefully without much violence and bloodshed.
Now it's going to get really really ugly.
Posted on 3/15/17 at 3:30 pm to montanagator
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You plan on putting an update and link to the Republican Chair of the House Intelligence Committee calling out Trump's lies?
Link please? Thanks.
Posted on 3/15/17 at 3:31 pm to Pettifogger
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It's anecdotal, but in reading/listening to foreign news services' interviews of Dutch citizens this week and last, there was a lot of (obviously summarizing) "I'm not supporting Wilders but I think he's on to something...I'm just not quite buying it overall yet."
The populist parties may be losing in places like Austria and the Netherlands, but these countries are still doing things like shutting down Erdogan events and establishing unilateral immigration reforms. The immigration message is getting through -- they just don't want the whole package that comes with European populism.
Posted on 3/15/17 at 3:31 pm to Sentrius
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They're not going to have that four years from now but by then it will be too late as the current immigration crisis is not sustainable for another four years and the establishment will double down on their bullshite to make sure someone like Wilders never challenges them again.
They had a chance for reforms and to gain control of their borders peacefully without much violence and bloodshed.
Now it's going to get really really ugly.
I just think Wilders (someone like him) has more appeal in France or Germany right now than in Holland.
Posted on 3/15/17 at 3:33 pm to Pettifogger
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Plus I think there is too much EU fondness.
As for Dutch fondness for the EU -- they were one of the founding members and they have greatly benefitted from peaceful economic cooperation between France, Germany, and (until now) the UK. The Netherlands is one of the biggest winners of the EU experiment. Why wouldn't they be "fond" of it?
Posted on 3/15/17 at 3:33 pm to Jjdoc
Posted on 3/15/17 at 3:34 pm to Pettifogger
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I just think Wilders (someone like him) has more appeal in France or Germany right now than in Holland.
Then why is the AfD and and Frauke Petry losing to Schulz?
This post was edited on 3/15/17 at 3:38 pm
Posted on 3/15/17 at 3:36 pm to TxTiger82
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The populist parties may be losing in places like Austria and the Netherlands, but these countries are still doing things like shutting down Erdogan events and establishing unilateral immigration reforms. The immigration message is getting through -- they just don't want the whole package that comes with European populism.
I agree. They want the pragmatic measures without the rhetoric and wholesale populist reform, would be my guess/estimation.
Posted on 3/15/17 at 3:36 pm to Sentrius
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They're not going to have that four years from now but by then it will be too late
The Dutch don't have general elections every four years. In fact, they occur at irregular intervals (e.g. the last one was 2012 and 2010 before that). I'm not sure what "triggers" them.
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