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Officer in Eric Garner case: I never used a choke hold

Posted on 12/11/14 at 7:33 am
Posted by C
Houston
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Posted on 12/11/14 at 7:33 am
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"He used a takedown technique he was taught in the academy. He said he never exerted any pressure on the windpipe and never intended to injure Mr. Garner."
Posted by meauxjeaux2
watson
Member since Oct 2007
60283 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 7:36 am to
that is correct and many martial arts experts have already said that. But if you look in that other thread,Efrad clearly tells us it was an illegal choke hold.It's disgusting the narrative of this whole thing and how blindly people are following the false story.
Posted by onmymedicalgrind
Nunya
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 12/11/14 at 7:43 am to
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never intended to injure Mr. Garner."

Ok so its not murder. Doesn't mean its not anything.
Posted by baybeefeetz
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 12/11/14 at 7:45 am to
And there you have it. Watch the video.
Posted by baybeefeetz
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Posted on 12/11/14 at 7:46 am to
Was it negligent?
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 12/11/14 at 7:46 am to
If the standard for deeming the maneuver a chokehold is the application of pressure to the windpipe, and the medical examiner listed compression of the windpipe as a contributioning factor to death (from what I've read), is the officer lying or is the medical examiner wrong?
Posted by baybeefeetz
Member since Sep 2009
31636 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 7:47 am to
He didn't say compression of the windpipe. Get your facts straight.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
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Posted on 12/11/14 at 7:50 am to
Is any compression of the neck a "chokehold" as the NYPD defines chokehold?
Posted by baybeefeetz
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 12/11/14 at 7:52 am to
Nope and am not arguing the point you think you are going t counter.
Posted by meauxjeaux2
watson
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 12/11/14 at 7:53 am to
quote:

the medical examiner listed compression of the windpipe as a contributioning factor to death (from what I've read)
you read wrong and are blatantly making shite up now.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 12/11/14 at 7:53 am to
I'm on my phone. Can someone quote the NYPD policy on chokeholds?
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 12/11/14 at 7:53 am to
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Ok so its not murder. Doesn't mean its not anything.


Let's do a hypothetical here seeing as to how you're going to be a doctor.

You're a surgeon doing a procedure but somewhere during that time you make a monumental accidental mistake during the surgery that costs your patient's life.

Are you just as guilty of death as this cop? Should there be some kind of criminal justice directed at you like you think this cop deserves?
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
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Posted on 12/11/14 at 7:56 am to
Google "doctor negligent homicide" and come back and let us know what you found.
Posted by meauxjeaux2
watson
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60283 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 7:57 am to
quote:

Can someone quote the NYPD policy on chokeholds?
no because it wasn't a chokehold you idiot
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 12/11/14 at 7:58 am to
Gfy. Idiot.
Posted by meauxjeaux2
watson
Member since Oct 2007
60283 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 7:59 am to
quote:

Gfy. Idiot.
ohhh you made my feelins
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
54210 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 8:02 am to
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"doctor negligent homicide"


So you saying any accidental death by a doctor during surgery is negligent?
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
23191 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 8:02 am to
LINK

I'm definitely not "making shite up" but I have relied on reporting and haven't read the report myself.

You would say this article is an inaccurate assessme of the examiners report?
Posted by baybeefeetz
Member since Sep 2009
31636 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 8:03 am to
I think the whole issue with this case is that people are looking at it immediately from the perspective of "this isn't right." I just think that's not fair minded. If you don't assume nefarious purposes or unconscious bias that works in A nefarious way, and you just ask yourself how did they arrive at this decision, you can see several avenues but which they did so.

That says nothing about the way the grand jury process worked, or the way that it should work. I'm just talking about this case. And the facts. And the law. Not a social crusade
Posted by Mindenfan
Minden
Member since Sep 2006
4786 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 8:05 am to
quote:

but I have relied on reporting and haven't read the report myself.
There's your problem right there.
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