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LSUFreek
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And this has affected every POTUS since FDR in what way, exactly?


None because there has been no accountability.

But it doesn't pardon any of them for ignoring the Constitution they've sworn to follow.


drexyl
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Or maybe he just wants someone else to share the blame in case things go sour in the event he decides to intervene in Syria
that's how it's supposed to work.


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DeltaDoc
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Kudos to Obama...I don't want a strike but at least he is not going at it alone. Hopefully Congress shuts this down now.


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Godfather1
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But it doesn't pardon any of them for ignoring the Constitution they've sworn to follow.


I don't disagree one bit. It was never supposed to be this easy to drag the USA into war.

But right now, the precedent is set. And until somebody challenges the status quo, Presidents will continue to overstep their bounds.


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TigerLicks
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This is Obama's out on the "red line" comment if Congress says no


TrueTiger
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This is Obama's out on the "red line" comment if Congress says no


and Congress should understand that when your enemies are killing each other, you should



trackfan
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I think the only reason Obama blinked is because Democrats were bailing on him. He would have been perfectly willing to go along with his Syria advanture if he had partisan support.


Lsut81
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Glad it will get shutdown in Congress

But

The man has so much egg on his face and looks like a fricking coward now. He made so many threats, said he would go it alone, blah blah blah.... And now nothing

Even if Congress approved, it's too late now.


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Champagne
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The Constitution says it has to be a "Declaration of War" from Congress to go to "war",


Some have, I believe, argued that, back in 2003 when the vast majority of everyone in Congress voted for the Iraq war, THAT was indeed, sufficient to meet the Constitutional requirement for Declaration of War.

The Constitution provides no detailed instructions with regard to the format of the Dec of War. Does it need to be in writing? Oral vote? Const. does not say.

So, if someone were to argue to you that, in 2003 Bush had BOTH UN Security Council Resolution support AND Congressional Declaration of War, the correct response is: "Doesn't matter, it was still a dumb idea to invade Iraq, even if it was not blatantly illegal under US and International law."


jimbeam
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So if Syria attacks Israel from the rear y'all think Greece would help????



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Champagne
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I think the only reason Obama blinked is because Democrats were bailing on him. He would have been perfectly willing to go along with his Syria advanture if he had partisan support.



I wonder whether Obama would be satisfied with a list of Congressional supporters, instead of some kind of formal vote.

Obama could fashion a list of Congressional supporters and cite THIS as his support for the attack, and then proceed.

I assume that Obama will act, even with only minority support from Congress.


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memphis tiger
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It is so obvious what he is doing. He knows he stuck his foot in his mouth. He knows military action vs Syria is not the answer. he knows everyone in the world will think he is a giant pussy if he does nothing. So...

Ask Congress for approval and when they say NO, he can blame the Republicans for the US for looking foolish. With the media in his pocket he can't lose.


real
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I've said all along that Obama isn't going to do shite. Now he has an out. If I were Assad ,I'd use chemicals again. And boy John Kerry sounded like the decision had been made to respond. This president is a weak arse leader. Very weak.


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trackfan
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he knows everyone in the world will think he is a giant pussy if he does nothing. So...

I don't think so. People will just think he's rational and came to his senses the same way they view David Cameron who also ran his mouth too much.


TheDoc
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To hold them accountable for their actions. I was also in favor of the recent wars in the Middle East, fwiw


Well you're a dumb ass. Not much else to say.


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davesdawgs
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It was the logical/common sense thing to do. We've lost any element of surprise with Obama telegraphing his intentions. Syria has their rocket launchers, etc. on the move and impact on stationary targets will likely be minimal. The smart move at this point is patience. Let the U.N. report on their investigation and propose sanctions against Syria. the UK Parliament has voted it down. Might as well let our Congress have their vote as well. Honestly this is a civil war within Syria which to date has has little impact on our allies. We have no allies directly involved with the struggle. Our best hope is the fighting weakens Syria to the extent that they won't be a factor in promotion of terrorism for years to come.

It's noteworthy that liberal Dems didn't deem Saddam's use of chemical weapons against Iran and against his own people as justification for action against Iraq. Never mind Iraq had already invaded Kuwait looting and burning oil fields disrupting oil supplies throughout the Middle East.
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real
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So why does he let his mouth get him in trouble so much? The leader of the greatest country in historys cant make threats and draw red lines in the sand,then coward down when that line is crossed and crossed in a big way. Once again,Obama is a horrible leader, and that's on all fronts.
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CarrolltonTiger
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We've lost any element of surprise with Obama telegraphing his intentions.


All it was ever going to be was a few cruise missiles, you don't lose that advantage because you lose the "element of surprise".

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Syria has their rocket launchers, etc.on the move


Brilliant lets blow a million dollar cruise missile on trying to hit a mobile scud launcher worth 50K,

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and impact on stationary targets will likely be minimal.


Why? You are talking out of your ass,


charlieg14
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Or maybe he just wants someone else to share the blame in case things go sour in the event he decides to intervene in Syria


As they should. Why in the hell else are they in office ?


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charlieg14
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I applaud your logical consistency.

I believe that many Republicans in Congress will support attacking Syria. I think that McCain, Lindsey Graham are both on board. I think Sean Hannity is, too.

Obama's attack on Syria will have less of a legal basis than did Bush's Iraq, so, if Syria happens, I will have lots of fun reminding the Obama-bots of this fact.


Republican congressmen should get a say. Hannity is a f***king troll and has no respectable say in the discussion.


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