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Obama Admin's PPD-19 protects this whistle blower

Posted on 3/30/17 at 2:23 pm
Posted by MButterfly
Quantico
Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 3/30/17 at 2:23 pm
This person is protected. This person followed the proper channels.

Nothing else you think really matters does it.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 3/30/17 at 2:24 pm to


I like it
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 3/30/17 at 2:25 pm to
quote:

This person is protected. This person followed the proper channels.


How so?
This post was edited on 3/30/17 at 2:26 pm
Posted by MButterfly
Quantico
Member since Oct 2015
6860 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 2:33 pm to
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PPD-19 creates whistleblower protections for two traditionally vulnerable groups of federal workers: those within the intelligence community and those with access to classified information. Under PPD-19, intelligence workers are protected from various forms of retaliation including demotions, reassignments and termination. However, workers do not have a private cause of action to enforce their rights. Instead, they must need to rely on nonbinding recommendations from an external review panel.

The first provision applies to members of the intelligence community, defined by PPD-19 as “any executive agency or unit thereof determined by the President under section 2303 (a)(2)(ii) of title 5 ... to have as its principal function the conduct of foreign intelligence or counterintelligence activities.” PPD-19 specifically names the following:

The Office of the Director of National Intelligence

The Central Intelligence Agency

The National Security Agency

The Defense Intelligence Agency

The National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency

The National Reconnaissance Office

PPD-19 embraces those agencies not covered by the WPEA.


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PPD-19 contains an expansive definition of “protected disclosure.” An employee is protected if they make a disclosure to any supervisor in the employee’s direct chain of command, as well as to the inspector general of the employing agency or intelligence community element; the director of National Intelligence; the inspector general of the intelligence community; or to an employee designated by any of the above officials for the purpose of receiving such disclosures.

To be protected, the employee must reasonably believe that their disclosure evidences a violation of any law, rule or regulation or gross mismanagement, a gross waste of funds, an abuse of authority or a substantial and specific danger to public health or safety.
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
28719 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 2:37 pm to
I don't need a refresher on it.

How did the leakers(s) comply with it?
Posted by jamboybarry
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 3/30/17 at 2:38 pm to
I'm admittedly behind on the whole "muh Russians" thing but are we now saying leaking classified info is "whistleblowing"?
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 3/30/17 at 2:39 pm to
quote:

are we now saying leaking classified info is "whistleblowing"?
Who was it leaked to?
Posted by jamboybarry
Member since Feb 2011
32647 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 2:40 pm to
quote:

Who was it leaked to?


Why does it matter?
Posted by MButterfly
Quantico
Member since Oct 2015
6860 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 2:41 pm to
It has always been known. If you follow JoshNorris, you might have a clear answer already and just don't know it.
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73439 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 2:42 pm to
quote:

Why does it matter?
Well if it were the agency I need to go to and claim whistleblower status it isn't a leak.

If it were say Brain Pagliano then it's a leak.
Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
12458 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 2:43 pm to
quote:

Why does it matter?


It matters because going to the Chariman of the fricking House Intel Committee and informing him of classified material on a classified fricking server that he is authorized to view exists is not leaking anything you stupid motherfricker.
Posted by MButterfly
Quantico
Member since Oct 2015
6860 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 2:45 pm to
The chain of command was followed.


Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73439 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 2:48 pm to
quote:

The chain of command was followed.
How do you know? signed Rexcatur
Posted by jamboybarry
Member since Feb 2011
32647 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 2:48 pm to
quote:

HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay


You sho ways mad

Also my point

your head
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48303 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 2:51 pm to
What you are claiming occurred and what PPD-19 protects are two different things. The language of PPD-19 is pretty clear. Not sure how you got confused.
Posted by MButterfly
Quantico
Member since Oct 2015
6860 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 2:53 pm to
LOL... I think you don't understand. Why don't you explain how you feel it's not?
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48303 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 3:07 pm to
I agree with you nothing was done inappropriately. However unless you are saying the info was first submitted to a committee for a review PPD-19 doesn't apply.
Posted by MButterfly
Quantico
Member since Oct 2015
6860 posts
Posted on 3/31/17 at 1:56 pm to
Again today.... Spicer mentioned our Whistle blower who is protected under PPD-19
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