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re: Obama Administration proposes housing Illegal immigrant children in Alabama

Posted on 7/1/14 at 9:36 pm to
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 7/1/14 at 9:36 pm to
Under the authority of the Homeland Security Act, the federal government transfers custody of illegal immigrant children who are apprehended alone at our borders to the Department of Health and Human Service’s Office of Refugee Resettlement (ORR). The ORR’s primary goal is to reunite them with a family member or legal guardian already here in the US (regardless of their legal status) while the child goes through removal proceedings. As Breitbart Texas recently reported, UACs receive a bevy of assistance while in ORR custody, including classroom education, health care, socialization/recreation, vocational training, mental health services, family reunification, access to legal services, and case management. In many cases, they are treated better than US citizen children currently in the foster care system.

The most valuable of all those benefits is the legal assistance. ORR has an outreach program to connect immigration attorneys willing to work on a pro-bono basis with UACs as they go through removal proceedings. For adult illegal immigrants facing deportation or applying for a status adjustment through avenues like asylum or cancellation of removal, finding a pro-bono attorney is next to impossible, and even lower-priced immigration attorneys are financially out of reach for cash-strapped applicants. But in the case of UACs, there is a program designed specifically to help just them, as well as unaccompanied refugee minors.

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Posted by wfeliciana
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Posted on 7/1/14 at 9:38 pm to
Yep, I think it is the usual but we're dealing with an extraordinary number now that are in custody, with great focus on them. That makes the handling of this different. Although there are probably some of these kids that will qualify to stay.
Posted by udtiger
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Posted on 7/1/14 at 9:39 pm to
Governor should order state police to prevent them from crossing into state.
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 7/1/14 at 9:41 pm to
That doesn't explain what happened in the last 5 years.
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 7/1/14 at 9:44 pm to
Immigration Law, News and Information 2014: Experts Say up to 80 Percent of Unaccompanied Migrant Children May Get Rights to Stay in US

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Posted by Y.A. Tittle
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Posted on 7/1/14 at 9:45 pm to
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Well Geauxxx I do know. I know because I know people that are involved in the very very tail end of the process. Obviously I can't cite anything but I imagine in the coming months folks will hear about what is planned. Remember the President did ask for funding, the logical follow on is what will the $ be used for.


Assuming you're correct, what about this would necessitate such secrecy?
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 7/1/14 at 9:46 pm to
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Assuming you're correct, what about this would necessitate such secrecy?


The same reason he needs 2 billion dollars, these kids aren't going anywhere.
Posted by NbamaTiger90
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Posted on 7/1/14 at 9:53 pm to
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Governor should order state police to prevent them from crossing into state.


I know you mean well. But last year the State passed Al HB 56 which kicked all illegals out of the state. Now we are a safe haven for them? (R)Robert Bentley is in a corner. Either his passed law stands and he refuses these illegals or he is one huge hypocrite under his passed law.
Posted by wfeliciana
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Posted on 7/1/14 at 9:57 pm to
I don't think there is any secrecy. I think they just haven't formalized plans within the Government and with the other nations. Who knows what the countries involved will or will not agree to.
Posted by Sentrius
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Posted on 7/1/14 at 9:57 pm to
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saying that the Dems want as many illegals in the US as they can get away with is not a conspiracy theory.


Yep.

Regardless of how this turns out, there's absolutely no question that dems see illegals as a future voting bloc to bolster their collective. With that in mind, the circumstances of the illegals and Alabama added to the mix is more than enough to raise eyebrows.

Does anyone know if they tried this in other red states compared to blue states? What's the ratio?
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 7/1/14 at 9:58 pm to
Are you suggesting the process wasn't in place?
Posted by Wolfhound45
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Posted on 7/1/14 at 10:04 pm to
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The US is actively working with the countries involved now.


Historical data on success of returning these children to their country of origin?
Posted by wfeliciana
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 7/1/14 at 10:05 pm to
Jbird, do you mean the process to return them to the countries? I guess on one level yes, a process does exist for deportation. But with these numbers not sure that would work. Really though I don't know. I just know that there is movement afoot.
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 7/1/14 at 10:06 pm to
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But with these numbers not sure that would work.
I can only assume you didn't read the links I provided.

Link to the "movement" that's afoot.
Posted by wfeliciana
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Posted on 7/1/14 at 10:09 pm to
Read my prior posts. There is nothing for me to link to. Like I said believe me or not. Or wait and see what happens.
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 7/1/14 at 10:11 pm to
Everything points to 2 billion dollars and they stay. I linked to the last 5 years where they rarely went home.
Posted by Wolfhound45
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Posted on 7/1/14 at 10:14 pm to
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Read my prior posts. There is nothing for me to link to. Like I said believe me or not. Or wait and see what happens.


You seem like a very nice fellow, even if you I do not agree with most of your political positions. But I think it is awful convenient where these children are being placed in the United States. And yes, I am quite cynical that they will ever return to their country of origin. Ever.

I (quite frankly) see them as a future voting bloc. Does not mean I am correct. Just means I am not convinced regarding the (seeming) altruistic nature of their placement or eventual return.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101390 posts
Posted on 7/1/14 at 10:15 pm to
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I don't think there is any secrecy. I think they just haven't formalized plans within the Government and with the other nations. Who knows what the countries involved will or will not agree to.


But you're saying you're privy to some special knowledge that has been determined regarding the "tail end of the process."

If some "higher ups" have devised some sort of plan regarding this, why must only special people like you be privy to it. Why not hold a press conference and tell us all, even if they're trying to figure out a few logistics in the interim?
Posted by Navytiger74
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 7/1/14 at 10:18 pm to
As a strategy to secure dem votes, this has backfire written all over it. If I'd braved a perilous (humid) journey from Tegucigalpa or Guatemala City only to find myself rounded up and abandoned in Alabama, I'm pretty sure I'd be voting against whoever made that happen for life. I've been to Mexico and Honduras, and I'd choose them over Bama every time.
Posted by KeyserSoze999
Member since Dec 2009
10608 posts
Posted on 7/1/14 at 10:20 pm to
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They're gonna start shipping them to all the red states where they need more Dem voters.



or perhaps an epidemic can break out and waste all those southern bible thumpers

win-win either way
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