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re: Obama Administration Calls Out Democratic Warmongers

Posted on 1/12/14 at 6:48 pm to
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 1/12/14 at 6:48 pm to
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Amazing Grace, how sweet the sound, That saved a wretch like him. He once was lost but now is found, Was blind, but now he sees.
I'm glad he is against war with Iran, but you are giving a politician FAR too much credit here.
Posted by SuperSaint
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Posted on 1/12/14 at 6:56 pm to
While we are bitching about the frick ups in the sand box, frick the Saudis having us in their back pocket while the whole time funding terrorist that undermind everything else we do in the region
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 1/12/14 at 7:15 pm to
The Obama administration has no room talk about warmongering. I hate hypocrital bullshite like this.

Too little, too late.

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It seems that Obama is finally becoming the peace President that he promised he would be.


This is cute.
Posted by trackfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
19691 posts
Posted on 1/13/14 at 8:53 am to
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I'm glad he is against war with Iran, but you are giving a politician FAR too much credit here.

Not really. Up until recently, Obama was no better than W when it came to wasting our nation's blood and treasure on unnecessary foreign conflicts, but it's better late than never.
Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
48296 posts
Posted on 1/13/14 at 8:54 am to
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It seems that Obama is finally becoming the peace President that he promised he would be


Let's pump the brakes. I agree with Obama here but this doesn't retroactively excuse his "Let's drone bomb brownies" campaign.
Posted by trackfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
19691 posts
Posted on 1/13/14 at 8:55 am to
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Add a few more "warmongers" and he'll be able to wad up that veto and shove it up his arse.

Even if the Senate warmongers get the 67 votes necessary to give Obama a blank check to attack Iran, that doesn't mean he has to cash it, and I have a hunch that he won't cash it.
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 1/13/14 at 8:58 am to
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Your logic is flawed. What you're advocating is a recipe for war. You may not consider yourself a neocon, but you've certainly bought into their talking points wholeheartedly
Well should we just assist them in their peace loving goals?
Posted by Jbird
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Member since Oct 2012
73424 posts
Posted on 1/13/14 at 9:02 am to
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Add a few more "warmongers" and he'll be able to wad up that veto and shove it up his arse. Even if the Senate warmongers get the 67 votes necessary to give Obama a blank check to attack Iran, that doesn't mean he has to cash it, and I have a hunch that he won't cash it.


He was referring to the ability to override the idiot in chief's veto you Iranian blowjob artist.
Posted by trackfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 1/13/14 at 9:10 am to
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He was referring to the ability to override the idiot in chief's veto you Iranian blowjob artist

What do you think I was alluding to when I mentioned "67 votes"? Perhaps you wouldn't sound so foolish if started thinking before you post, shortbuser.

By the way, not to be out-warmongered, Iran's parliament is showing that they can be just as belligerent as Congress.

quote:

The hardliners, irked by the foreign policy shift since moderate President Hasan Rouhani was elected in June, oppose the Geneva deal.

The bill introduced on Wednesday, "if approved, will oblige the government to ... enrich uranium to 60 percent level in order to provide fuel for submarine engines if the sanctions are tightened and Iran's nuclear rights are ignored (by major powers)," said hardline lawmaker Mehdi Mousavinejad, according to the English language Press TV website.

It was not immediately clear whether or when the parliament might discuss the bill but the official IRNA news agency said it was introduced by some 100 lawmakers and had been tagged with a "double urgency" status, meaning it could be discussed in parliament within a week.

"The bill is aimed at giving an upper hand to our government and the negotiating team ... It will allow the government to continue our nuclear program if the Geneva deal fails," IRNA quoted Hossein Taghavi Hosseini, spokesman for parliament's National Security and Foreign Affairs committee, as saying.

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Hopefully, Rouhani and Khamenei will give their Parliament the middle finger just like Obama is giving to Congress.
Posted by Jbird
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Member since Oct 2012
73424 posts
Posted on 1/13/14 at 9:18 am to
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What do you think I was alluding to when I mentioned "67 votes"? Perhaps you wouldn't sound so foolish if started thinking before you post, shortbuser.
So in your blind hatred overriding a veto in fact is a declaration of war.
Posted by trackfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
19691 posts
Posted on 1/13/14 at 9:26 am to
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So in your blind hatred overriding a veto in fact is a declaration of war

The resolution itself is a de facto war declaration. Are you familiar with the language of it?
Posted by SettleDown
Everywhere
Member since Nov 2013
1333 posts
Posted on 1/13/14 at 9:27 am to
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It seems that Obama is finally becoming the peace President that he promised he would be.


K. I'm trying to figure out if you are actually serious here.
Posted by Jbird
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Member since Oct 2012
73424 posts
Posted on 1/13/14 at 9:28 am to
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The resolution itself is a de facto war declaration
I say we drone the de facto out of it.
Posted by trackfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
19691 posts
Posted on 1/14/14 at 10:50 am to
Pat Buchanan weighs in on the Senate's war resolution.

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The bill says that in a final deal Iran must give up all enrichment of uranium. However, we have already been put on notice by President Hassan Rouhani that this is an ultimatum Iran cannot accept.

Even the reformers of Iran’s Green Revolution of 2009 back their country’s right to a peaceful nuclear program including enrichment.

Senate bill S.1881 imposes new sanctions if Iran fails to live up to the interim agreement or fails to come to a final agreement in six months.

Yet the Senate knows that Iran has warned that if new sanctions are voted during negotiations, they will walk away from the table.

Why is the Senate risking, or even inviting, a blowup in these talks?

When the interim agreement was reached, it was denounced by neocons as “worse than Munich.” Now the War Party piously contends this Senate bill is simply an “insurance policy” to ensure that the terms of the deal are met and a final deal reached.

It is nothing of the sort. This bill is a project of AIPAC, the Israeli lobby, designed to sabotage and scuttle the Geneva talks by telling Tehran: Either capitulate and dismantle all your enrichment facilities, or face more severe sanctions which will put us on the road to war.

What terrifies AIPAC and Bibi is not an American war on Iran, but an American rapprochement with Iran.

Who are the leaders of the push for S.1881? Sens. Mark Kirk and Robert Menendez, the biggest recipients of AIPAC campaign cash.

Last weekend, the Obama National Security Council finally belled the cat with a blunt statement by spokesperson Bernadette Meehan: ”If certain members of Congress want the United States to take military action [against Iran], they should be up front with the American public and say so.”

Exactly. For whether or not all these senators understand what they are doing, this is where their bill points—to a scuttling of the Geneva talks and a return to the sanctions road, at the end of which lies a U.S. war with Iran.

A majority of Democratic senators have thus far bravely bucked AIPAC and declined to co-sponsor S.1881. However, all but two Republican senators have signed on.

If, after Afghanistan, Iraq, and Libya, the GOP has once again caught the war fever, the party should be quarantined from the White House for another four years.

Press Secretary Jay Carney says that if S.1881 passes, Obama will veto it. The president should tell Congress that not only will he veto it, but that if Israel decides on its own to attack Iran, Israel will be on its own in the subsequent war.


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This post was edited on 1/14/14 at 10:54 am
Posted by trackfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
19691 posts
Posted on 1/28/14 at 9:49 pm to
I was glad to hear Obama, in his State of the Union speech, threaten the warmongers in Congress with a veto if they passed their Iran War bill.
Posted by S.E.C. Crazy
Alabama
Member since Feb 2013
7905 posts
Posted on 1/28/14 at 10:58 pm to
So, what are drones if not a killing device ?

Of course HE BLACK...... So he's ok.

:beatdeadhorse:
Posted by trackfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
19691 posts
Posted on 1/28/14 at 11:01 pm to
I oppose his drone usage to, and I've said it a number of times on this board, but this thread is about the Iran war resolution, not drones.

Anyway, what's your point? That since Obama uses drones, he has to also attack Iran?
This post was edited on 1/28/14 at 11:03 pm
Posted by S.E.C. Crazy
Alabama
Member since Feb 2013
7905 posts
Posted on 1/28/14 at 11:10 pm to
This presidents Iran plan is seen by everyone around the world as weak and dumb, except democrats.

This president can do zero wrong to socialist liberas and 95 percent of black Americans.

God help us when a dictator decides to overthrow the government, if he's black I see at least 42 percent of the population that I believe would fight for a supreme leader.

Sad to me how stupid we as a whole have become.
Posted by ocelot4ark
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2009
12458 posts
Posted on 1/29/14 at 12:05 am to
Truly wish they would have passed that bill decades ago that someone proposed...

Every citizen votes whether we should go to any war. Vote yes? Welcome to the army.

I'm sick and fricking tired of being Israel's errand boy.
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