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Now that TrumpCare is Dead, Stop Lying
Posted on 7/28/17 at 4:56 pm
Posted on 7/28/17 at 4:56 pm
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Some of you don't know any better - your only interaction with healthcare is when you get ill, and you've been lucky to not be seriously ill nor do you know anyone who is.
Others? You know better, and are purposefully lying to achieve your political ends. It didn't work this time, and hopefully it will continue to fail.
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For Trump, this has never been about improving our health-care system. Trump, who visibly had no idea how the ACA works or what was in the various GOP replacements, and who openly said he would sign whatever Republicans put in front of him, just wanted to boast of a “win” while triumphantly using Barack Obama’s signature domestic achievement as his own personal toilet paper roll.
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But this outcome, ironically, was good news not just for the United States, but also for untold numbers of Trump’s own voters, the low-income and aging whites who also benefited from the ACA’s historic coverage expansion. Trump’s voters were spared the destructive impact of his peculiar combination of ignorance, megalomania and sheer indifference to the fate of millions.
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If there is one thing I hope happens now, it’s that Trump and Republicans can shape their current response to the ACA around an acceptance of an idea that many of them have refused to acknowledge: that the ACA has effected positive change in the lives of millions, making American life more humane and just. The Medicaid expansion has expanded coverage to millions of poor people, many of whom no doubt never had coverage in their lives, and many deep in the heart of Trump country. The exchanges, for all their problems, have helped extend coverage to millions more, particularly people with preexisting conditions, who can now get robust insurance packages, and lower-income people who can now get coverage with the help of subsidies.
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many Republicans have also refused for years to tell the truth about the real-world impact of the law, or about what their own replacements for it would actually do. House Speaker Paul D. Ryan kept lying right up until the end, claiming the ACA is merely “collapsing and hurting American families.” Throughout, Republicans claimed endlessly that their solutions would not cut Medicaid and would leave nobody worse off, and that if millions were left uninsured, it would be by choice under the new reign of freedom they would usher in. Trump, too, hopes to sabotage the ACA under the guise of the lie that it is collapsing of its own accord.
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My point is not that Republicans should stop making arguments against the ACA or stop trying to move our health-care system in a conservative direction. Indeed, a genuinely bipartisan approach to reforming our health-care system could end up giving Republicans some deregulatory measures in exchange for GOP help in shoring up the exchanges and a GOP acceptance of the ACA’s coverage expansion. Some Republican health wonks are now calling on their party to adopt a similar approach. But for this to happen, we would all have to proceed from shared agreement that this coverage expansion — one fostered by government — has actually helped enormous numbers of people, even if it isn’t in the manner that Republicans had hoped.
Some of you don't know any better - your only interaction with healthcare is when you get ill, and you've been lucky to not be seriously ill nor do you know anyone who is.
Others? You know better, and are purposefully lying to achieve your political ends. It didn't work this time, and hopefully it will continue to fail.
Posted on 7/28/17 at 4:57 pm to BamaAtl
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Stop Lying
You first. Didn't read the rest. Down voted.
Posted on 7/28/17 at 4:57 pm to BamaAtl
you really are obsessed with obamacare
Posted on 7/28/17 at 4:58 pm to BamaAtl
I can't wait for the day when your Obamacare is taken away.
Posted on 7/28/17 at 4:58 pm to BamaAtl
I don't think forced coverage or triple digit premium increases is "help."
This post was edited on 7/28/17 at 4:59 pm
Posted on 7/28/17 at 4:58 pm to BamaAtl
Oh look, it is pablum from Greg Sargent.
You don't think people know who he is?
Why don't you post more Kaiser bullshite?
You don't think people know who he is?
Why don't you post more Kaiser bullshite?
Posted on 7/28/17 at 4:59 pm to BamaAtl
Did not read your leftist propaganda but I did downvote your arse.
Posted on 7/28/17 at 4:59 pm to CAD703X
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you really are obsessed with obamacare
He is also a confirmation bias All-star.
The ACA is one of the worst pieces of domestic legislation in history
Posted on 7/28/17 at 5:00 pm to Lsuhoohoo
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Stop Lying
You first. Didn't read the rest. Down voted.
This was my exact thought. OP is a habitual liar.
Posted on 7/28/17 at 5:01 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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What a hack piece
Would you expect anything different from BamaRexWant?
Posted on 7/28/17 at 5:01 pm to Bunyan
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forced coverage or triple digit premium increase
Reality...
Anti-freedom.
Anti-better.
Posted on 7/28/17 at 5:02 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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What a hack piece
Wait for it, in this thread either on this page or in the next few, someone will swear that the ACA is dying on its own.
They either don't know what they're talking about, or are lying. You decide which.
Posted on 7/28/17 at 5:02 pm to BamaAtl
Sweet WaPo opinion piece
Says stop lying... posts from biggest liars in the game
Says stop lying... been caught lying multiple times
You argument of authority holds no weight when your favorite piece of legislation is collapsing and you keep cheering it on... insurers are pulling out and rates are skyrocketing because it's not a practical solution
Says stop lying... posts from biggest liars in the game
Says stop lying... been caught lying multiple times
You argument of authority holds no weight when your favorite piece of legislation is collapsing and you keep cheering it on... insurers are pulling out and rates are skyrocketing because it's not a practical solution
Posted on 7/28/17 at 5:03 pm to Antonio Moss
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The ACA is one of the worst pieces of domestic legislation in history
Posted on 7/28/17 at 5:03 pm to Antonio Moss
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The ACA is one of the worst pieces of domestic legislation in history
It is difficult to argue against this...even in slavery days, the federal government didn't put this crap out...
The income tax amendment and fed res act are up there
This post was edited on 7/28/17 at 5:04 pm
Posted on 7/28/17 at 5:04 pm to Antonio Moss
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The ACA is one of the worst pieces of domestic legislation in history
It really, really isn't.
Unless you consider the lowest uninsured rate in our history a bad outcome.
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