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re: No threads on the gentleman who traveled to NYC?
Posted on 3/23/17 at 3:41 pm to Texas Weazel
Posted on 3/23/17 at 3:41 pm to Texas Weazel
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After we bought them, the French and English weren't done with them. Or are we going to casually dismiss colonialism??
"We" were British subjects at the time all that was set up...soo.
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Posted on 3/23/17 at 3:43 pm to Big Scrub TX
This thread being 9 pages long proves it is indeed PT worthy material
Posted on 3/23/17 at 3:56 pm to Dale51
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"We" were British subjects at the time all that was set up. And continued the deal after we declared Independence.
FIFY
Posted on 3/23/17 at 3:58 pm to onmymedicalgrind
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This thread being 9 pages long proves it is indeed PT worthy material
I just want scrub to link the hypocrites
Posted on 3/23/17 at 4:10 pm to Texas Weazel
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"We" were British subjects at the time all that was set up. And continued the deal after we declared Independence.
And? The structures were in place and functioning as per the moral standards of the time. What did you expect? Major changes take time. Its sort of like the USA now. The idiotic morality and "culture" of the last half century, foisted upon people by the liberal left will take time to change completely. Certain changes can be made and built upon, but not until all you leftist nutsacks age and die off, will a new period of enlightenment be fully realized.
Same thing with the era of slavery.
This post was edited on 3/23/17 at 4:12 pm
Posted on 3/23/17 at 4:51 pm to Dale51
quote:Recognizing the construction of an all-powerful IC and NSA as a crisis is "dumb"?
Thats just dumb.
Posted on 3/23/17 at 4:53 pm to Antonio Moss
quote:So what was the shooter in this thread "motivated" by? Even if he were deranged enough to be "motivated" by BLM, actually blaming it on BLM is absurd.
It's hard to argue that the Dallas shooter and BR shooter were not motivated by the BLM movement
quote:I agree. That's one of the main reasons blaming anything on them is absurd.
And BLM isn't a single coherent group.
Posted on 3/23/17 at 4:54 pm to LSUGrrrl
quote:I believe one person who intended to "make a statement" before the media via a racially-motivated murder is by-definition political. And this is Political Talk.
So you believe 1 person's racism is a political issue?
Posted on 3/23/17 at 4:56 pm to Big Scrub TX
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Recognizing the construction of an all-powerful IC and NSA as a crisis is "dumb"?
You're confused. My comment was in response to this, which was your post:
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But it isn't Islam. It's ourselves.
What part of your post did you think i was responding to?
Posted on 3/23/17 at 4:58 pm to roadGator
quote:There are no similar threads to this. I didn't take this guy's actions and blame them on StormFront or some other white racist organization - even though it's entirely possible he was "motivated" by their rantings. That's because that's absurd. This person is responsible for his own reprehensible actions. I don't feel the need to tarnish thousands of other people. I also didn't act like this persons actions were somehow representative of a vast swath of society.
So your thread here should be enjoyed by all even though you find similar threads less than enjoyable.
Posted on 3/23/17 at 5:04 pm to Texas Weazel
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Well, it wasn't blacks who denied themselves of sitting in front of buses, drinking from separate water fountains, voting, going to world renowned universities, or the other basic opportunities? that we take for granted today.
No. I believe it was our other ancestors who did that.
You are correct. And you make some other good points.
However, if you ask an African America if they feel bad about the beating the old white guy took at the hands of the young black guys, they will say "No. They had nothing to do with it, and it was not their responsibility." Most would probably feel bad about what happen and even agree that the young thugs deserve to face time in jail.
That is how most white people feel about slavery. it was a horrific chapter in our history. Absolutely morally wrong. I think most, if not all white people (I give exception to the obvious racists) would say they are horrified by slavery and feel bad about it. However, we had nothing to do with it. Further, most did not have any ancestors that owned slaves.
Most on this board were not alive in the 1950's or 19060's, either. how far back are we going to go? Do we make Africans feel responsible for the raids along the Italian coast that their ancestors did while raping, pillaging and taking slaves? How about native Americans? Do they need to apologize and feel bad when they attacked other Native American villages taking slaves and wiping out entire villages?
At some point it has to be let go and considered to be in the past? Forget? No. But to hold an entire group of people responsible for acts created centuries before they were born is unheard of. If we don't let go and concentrate on how to make the present a better place we will always wallow in the past and play the blame game against those who have long been dead.
Posted on 3/23/17 at 5:09 pm to Big Scrub TX
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So what was the shooter in this thread "motivated" by? Even if he were deranged enough to be "motivated" by BLM, actually blaming it on BLM is absurd.
Not necessarily absurd, really:
During the standoff, Mr. Johnson, who was black, told police negotiators that “he was upset about Black Lives Matter,” Chief Brown said. “He said he was upset about the recent police shootings. The suspect said he was upset at white people. The suspect stated he wanted to kill white people, especially white officers.”
LINK
It DOES, however, seem to me that this is a case of a disturbed individual, just as the subject of this thread.
This post was edited on 3/23/17 at 5:10 pm
Posted on 3/23/17 at 5:14 pm to Dale51
quote:Exactly that part, which is what I was referring to as well. Since 9-11, there is no "crisis" of Islam in this country. Rather, 9-11 did EXACTLY what Islam wanted of us and caused us to eat ourselves alive. We weren't FORCED to pass the Patriot Act and geometrically grow the surveillance state. We chose to.
But it isn't Islam. It's ourselves.
What part of your post did you think i was responding to?
Posted on 3/23/17 at 5:19 pm to Big Scrub TX
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Exactly that part, which is what I was referring to as well. Since 9-11, there is no "crisis" of Islam in this country. Rather, 9-11 did EXACTLY what Islam wanted of us and caused us to eat ourselves alive. We weren't FORCED to pass the Patriot Act and geometrically grow the surveillance state. We chose to.
You're living in the past. It's resulting in the belief in overcompensation.
Now we're "choosing" to ignore the 600 lb gorilla walking the streets with a koran and a prayer rug, with dead bodies behind it.
Posted on 3/23/17 at 5:21 pm to Dale51
quote:What exactly are we "ignoring"? I'm well aware of the existence of thug Islam. And I hate it. I just don't really fear it.
Now we're "choosing" to ignore the 600 lb gorilla walking the streets with a koran and a prayer rug, with dead bodies behind it.
Posted on 3/23/17 at 5:46 pm to DawgsLife
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Most on this board were not alive in the 1950's or 19060's, either. how far back are we going to go?
You'd be surprised. A lot of people from that era are still breathing and kicking. Racism and discrimination was real to them. Their scars and stories are real and alive.
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At some point it has to be let go and considered to be in the past? Forget? No.
Agreed. But is it appropriate to let it go now considering that there are still African Americans alive that experienced Jim Crow laws?
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But to hold an entire group of people responsible for acts created centuries before they were born is unheard of.
Nobody is saying we should hold anyone responsible. But we do have to admit that the sins of our forefathers can still be felt in society today.
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If we don't let go and concentrate on how to make the present a better place we will always wallow in the past and play the blame game against those who have long been dead.
Completely disagree. Segregation should always be remembered as a sad period in our history. It should especially be taught in college campuses that have set up these "safe spaces" that are designed to drown out opposing views. Theyre just wrong.
We are extremely divided as a country and both the left and right are no longer conpromising. Both sides have fallen off their deep ends and protests have turned violent. This country is more divided than ever before and we need to look at history to understand the consequences of what we are currently doing.
Posted on 3/23/17 at 5:50 pm to roadGator
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LSUwhinerine
Now that's funny right there. Fitting and funny.
Posted on 3/23/17 at 5:51 pm to Texas Weazel
What IRL live action have you taken to help the African American "community"?
Posted on 3/23/17 at 5:55 pm to Texas Weazel
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Nobody is saying we should hold anyone responsible. But we do have to admit that the sins of our forefathers can still be felt in society today.
That's true but black people claiming the USA is worse for blacks today than during the 50s or 60s is a lie.
Posted on 3/23/17 at 6:06 pm to roadGator
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What IRL live action have you taken to help the African American "community"?
Reading comprehension really isn't your strongest suit.
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